OOtp Spoilers Ahoy: Snape

frumenta p_yanna at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 3 15:33:54 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 67074

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" 
<bard7696 at a...> wrote:
#>> D-Dore himself compares the relationship between James and Snape 
to 
> Harry and Draco, which (early on, at least) was more equal footing.
> 
> 
Clearly, Dumbledore didn't know everything that was going on or he 
would have done somemthing, wouldn't he? Rather than lose one of his 
students to Voldemort.


> 
> > James and Sirius were the ones attacking him. And they weren't 
> ganging-up on him so much as tag-teaming. Never do James and 
Sirius 
> attack both at once.

Not ganging-up, tag-teaming... Didn't know there are actual terms to 
describe bullying. They do not attack at once but they are both 
making sure Snape remains helpless for the duration of the attack. 
> 
>> 
> > And I suspect that one of the reasons that DD cuts Snape a lot > 
The fact is, we still don't know for sure how isolated or common the 
> Penseive incident was. There are clues that it happened more, but 
> there are also clues that Snape, at other times, gave as good as 
he 
> got. 

As in "Snape was always trying to curse James?" Very conveniently 
vague. We don't know who started it and it certainly looks like 
James was the one.

> 
>> Snape needed Crucio to remember to call V-Mort the Dark Lord? 
Once 
> again, I must ask how stupid this guy is. I refer once again to 
how 
> the Sirius-Snape conversation about the Shrieking Shack could have 
> went.
> 
> Sirius: Hey, Snivellus, you really want to get us in trouble?
> Snape: Yes, you betcha I do. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
> Sirius: Just follow Lupin into that Whomping Willow.
> Snape: Hey, you wouldn't be trying to put me in any danger, 
> considering we've been enemies since forever and you and Potter 
> humiliated me in front of everyone, now would you?
> Sirius: Nope.
> Snape: All-righty, then. You guys are in trouble now!

We don't know exactly under what circumstances Sirius let slip how 
you could get past the Whomping Willow. Revisionist Remus told that 
story and considering the animosity between Snape and Sirius for 
Snape to trust Sirius' words there must have been something else 
there. Perhaps Sirius arranged so that Snape would overhear. That 
would make sense. 

I should point out that Sirius is planning murder in this oh, so 
amusing scene you have regalled us with. Yes, funny as hell, isn't 
it?

As for wanting to get the Marauders into trouble... who wouldn't try 
to get his tormentors expelled any way he could?
> 

Mim 

> 
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