OOtp Spoilers Ahoy: Snape

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 67081


> > > James and Sirius were the ones attacking him. And they weren't 
> > ganging-up on him so much as tag-teaming. Never do James and 
> Sirius 
> > attack both at once.
> 
> Not ganging-up, tag-teaming... Didn't know there are actual terms to 
> describe bullying. They do not attack at once but they are both 
> making sure Snape remains helpless for the duration of the attack. 

Not so helpless, he was able to get a pretty wicked cut in on James' cheek. 
And he had his wand whipped out and ready to go. 



> > > And I suspect that one of the reasons that DD cuts Snape a lot > 
> The fact is, we still don't know for sure how isolated or common the 
> > Penseive incident was. There are clues that it happened more, but 
> > there are also clues that Snape, at other times, gave as good as 
> he 
> > got. 
> 
> As in "Snape was always trying to curse James?" Very conveniently 
> vague. We don't know who started it and it certainly looks like 
> James was the one.


You were right the first time. We don't know who started it. Obviously, James 
got pretty good at finishing it. But, since we don't know what the first five years 
were like, it's hard to tell how the hate began.


 
> >> Snape needed Crucio to remember to call V-Mort the Dark Lord? 
> Once  again, I must ask how stupid this guy is. I refer once again to 
> how  the Sirius-Snape conversation about the Shrieking Shack could have 
> > went.
> > 
> > Sirius: Hey, Snivellus, you really want to get us in trouble?
> > Snape: Yes, you betcha I do. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
> > Sirius: Just follow Lupin into that Whomping Willow.
> > Snape: Hey, you wouldn't be trying to put me in any danger, 
> > considering we've been enemies since forever and you and Potter 
> > humiliated me in front of everyone, now would you?
> > Sirius: Nope.
> > Snape: All-righty, then. You guys are in trouble now!
> 
> We don't know exactly under what circumstances Sirius let slip how 
> you could get past the Whomping Willow. Revisionist Remus told that 
> story and considering the animosity between Snape and Sirius for 
> Snape to trust Sirius' words there must have been something else 
> there. Perhaps Sirius arranged so that Snape would overhear. That 
> would make sense. 


Oh, so now we can't trust Lupin. So, the only person we can trust in all this is 
Snape himself. Convenient.  

Lupin told the group that Sirius told Snape about the Shrieking Shack.  That's 
what we know.

Absolutely, Sirius letting Snape overhear makes sense. You know what also 
makes sense? Snape getting the drop on Sirius, hexing him, maybe even 
using Crucio, and demanding to know where Lupin goes every month.  Sirius 
tells him, and off Snape goes.

All possible on the path of "not canon"

> I should point out that Sirius is planning murder in this oh, so 
> amusing scene you have regalled us with. Yes, funny as hell, isn't 
> it?

I prefer to think of it as weeding out the stupid, if the scene really happened as 
I satirized it.  

But, of course, Sirius was planning Snape's demise, or at least vicious injury. 

Did that happen for fun? I don't know. We don't know what happened prior to 
all of that. 

> As for wanting to get the Marauders into trouble... who wouldn't try 
> to get his tormentors expelled any way he could?

And who wouldn't try to get a little tattletale out of the way? When the ends 
justify the means, it opens up all kinds of fun.

Darrin