OOtp Spoilers Ahoy: Snape

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jul 3 16:52:44 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 67102

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" 
<bard7696 at a...> wrote:
Once 
> again, I must ask how stupid this guy is. I refer once again to 
how  the Sirius-Snape conversation about the Shrieking Shack 
could have  went.
> 
> Sirius: Hey, Snivellus, you really want to get us in trouble?
> Snape: Yes, you betcha I do. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
> Sirius: Just follow Lupin into that Whomping Willow.
> Snape: Hey, you wouldn't be trying to put me in any danger, 
> considering we've been enemies since forever and you and 
Potter 
> humiliated me in front of everyone, now would you?
> Sirius: Nope.
> Snape: All-righty, then. You guys are in trouble now!
> 

Exactly! We know Snape is Not Stupid, therefore this scenario 
doesn't fly.  It's *not* reasonable to suppose Snape entered the 
Willow of his own volition. I submit   he went in under the 
imperius curse. The shock of seeing the werewolf lifted the 
curse, and Snape found himself being pulled out of the willow by 
James with no idea what had just happened.

Since students were forbidden to approach the willow, v. PoA, 
Snape's inability to explain what he was doing there would have 
seemed like an attempt to cover up  his own guilt.

I think Lupin  told Sirius that letting Snape know how to get inside 
the willow would be a good joke, and Sirius, who never exactly 
thought things through, went along with it.  No doubt Sirius 
expected to be rewarded with the sight of Snape fleeing in terror 
from the willow, because Snape would surely hear the shrieks 
and howls long before he got to the shack. Sirius never intended 
murder, but took full responsibility for telling Snape how to get 
into the shack in order to shield Lupin.

This provides a subtext to Snape needling Sirius about his lack 
of courage. Did Sirius ever taunt Snape that he would be too 
cowardly to go near the willow? Lupin says they used to play a 
game, daring each other to get near it. But I digress..

 We learn from OOP that the Imperius  curse can be used  to 
force someone to do something at a later time. ESE!Lupin could 
have put the Imperius curse on Snape sometime before he 
transformed. Lupin could count on Dumbledore to blame 
Snape's curiousity for his unfortunate accidental death, and the 
cowardice of the Hogwarts governing board to cover up the 
whole thing. End result, Lupin gets to continue his outings with 
the Marauders, which were the only thing that made his 
transformations bearable.

Dumbledore investigates, but  doesn't find out  that Lupin is lying 
because werewolf minds resist legilimency, cf Snape "Don't ask 
me to fathom how a werewolf's mind works!"

 
Pippin
you bet we can't trust Lupin





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