OoP: Has Anyone Seen Redeemable Draco??? No spoilers

[kattfirmin1]

No: HPFGUIDX 67196

In refrence to Draco being abused, I haven't seen any evidence to 
support that theory.  When Harry and Ron had taken the Polyjuice 
potion and were talking to Draco, Draco said that his dad didn't 
want him involved, but to just stay out of the way and let the Heir 
of Slytherin get on with his business. (Draco felt comfortable with 
his father to ask him about it).  And he was bragging about his 
families own Chamber of Secrets.  And in GoF, when the DE were 
parading those Muggles in the air, Harry saw Draco standing there 
calmly, maybe even prouldy, while everyone else was frantically 
running around.  I think since we obviously don't like the Malfoys, 
we want to imagine all sorts of horrors regarding them.  I think 
Draco wants to grow up to be just like his dad.  

The Malfoys are capable of abusive behavior, as shown by Dobby, but 
I don't think they show it toward their son.

Katrina

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, srsiriusblack at a... wrote:
> Hello jdr0918 at h...,
> 
> In reference to your comment:
> 
> è <<<--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com,
> è "Marianne" wrote: What about  all those baskets and
> è treats his owl brought him from home?  And his   father
> è paying for the whole Slytherin team's brooms? I dunno,
> è his   father may not be extreamly affectionate, but
> è malfoy seems pretty   spoiled, and I get the impression
> è his mother babies him...>>>  The Sergeant
> è Majorette says:  Yeah, he's spoiled rotten, but there's
> è no evidence that either of his  parents particularly likes
> è him. I still say Harry needs a  contemporary
> è couterpoint for dramatic symmetry. Never forget that
> è JKR  has plotted all this out on grids. The Sorting Hat
> è says we all have  to pull together -- who else in
> è Slytherin House do we know better? (Snape is a
> è grownup -- he doesn't count.)
> 
> I am not stretching too far I don't think, but in reference to 
Draco, a lot 
> of abused children get 'pay offs' from the abuser. Lucius seems to 
fit a 
> profile in my mind of an abusive parent so Draco's presents from 
him might be just 
> to satisfy some guilt in his abusiveness. Also, I think that 
purchasing the 
> brooms for the Slytherin team was more to support his own house 
rather than his 
> son. Lucius doesn't seem to care about anyone.
> 
> In GoF, we see the way he enters the World Cup Pitch with his 
wife, so aptly 
> named (btw), and his son. Lucius almost doesn't even know they 
exist, rather 
> his is driven to show off in front of others and humiliate the 
Weasleys. This 
> are al abusive tendencies.
> 
> Just some thoughts,
> -Snuffles
> 
> "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the 
dusty 
> recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was 
vanity: but the dreamers 
> of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with 
open eyes, 
> to make it possible. This I did."  T.E. Lawrence- Seven Pillars of 
Wisdom
> 
> 
> ========Original Message======== 
> Subj:   [HPforGrownups] Re: OoP: Has Anyone Seen Redeemable 
Draco???    
> Date:   7/3/2003 3:10:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time   
> From:   <A HREF="mailto:jdr0918 at h...">jdr0918 at h...</A> 
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> <<<--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Marianne" wrote: What 
about 
> all those baskets and treats his owl brought him from home?  And 
his  
> father paying for the whole Slytherin team's brooms? I dunno, his  
> father may not be extreamly affectionate, but malfoy seems pretty  
> spoiled, and I get the impression his mother babies him...>>>
> 
> The Sergeant Majorette says:
> 
> Yeah, he's spoiled rotten, but there's no evidence that either of 
his 
> parents particularly likes him. I still say Harry needs a 
> contemporary couterpoint for dramatic symmetry. Never forget that 
JKR 
> has plotted all this out on grids. The Sorting Hat says we all 
have 
> to pull together -- who else in Slytherin House do we know better?
> (Snape is a grownup -- he doesn't count.)
> 
> To use darrin burnett's analogy, Draco has indeed turned into Wil 
E. 
> Coyote, which leaves Harry with nothing to say but "beep-beep". I 
say 
> our Harry is a classic hero on the scale of Bugs Bunny; he needs 
> Draco to rise to the level of Daffy Duck for the Final 
Confrontation 
> to have any poignancy at all.
> 
> --JDR, visualizing the final scene like this: having lost the 
> epic "rabbit season, duck season" battle, a broken and bleeding 
Draco 
> screeches "go on, shoot me again! I love the smell of cordite and 
> burnt feathers!"
> 
> 
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