A slightly different spin on the future signicance of Draco Malfoy (SPOILERS
komagata_mai
irreality at mit.edu
Fri Jul 4 05:15:47 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 67304
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jenny_ravenclaw"
> <meboriqua at a...> wrote:
> > Do you think Draco will reform because you have
> > canon evidence that points to Draco ever doing anything positive
for
> > anyone, or because you really just want him to reform?
> > I have to say again that Draco have not shown any evidence that
he is
> > willing to go out on a limb for anyone, and everyone in the
Order *is*
> > willing to do that. <snip> Selfish and self-centered people
are usually not the
> > ones who walk into risky situations if nothing is in it for
them, and
> > there is absolutely nothing in it for Draco to turn away from
> > everything he has ever known to work for a man like Dumbledore,
who is
> > fairly openly hated by the Malfoy family.
> >
I dont think he needs to be selfless to be in the order. As long as
he has something to benefit the order, he can be a key member
(inside information, contacts, etc.). And I think if he had
something to benefit from the order (like, betting on the winner,
something people like draco do), he could decide that. So what if
Malfoy's family hates dumbledore. If Lucius is in jail, or killed,
Draco might pick a different path in life. He doesnt remember what
it is like to live under Voldemort, or during a war. He might not
like having less than all his conforts, and wish the war to end.
> >
> > Jenny again:
> > This is an interesting point, but we also have to remember
James's
> > reaction to Snape calling Lily a mudblood. He is horrified to
hear
> > Lily compare him to Snape, insisting that he would never use
that
> > word. Yes, James was a jerk at 15, but his parents weren't
jerks, too
> > and he wasn't being taught hatred at home, AFAIK. We *know*
what
> > lovely lessons Draco learns.
> >
First off, Sirius learnt those same lessons, and he was a brat in
his fifth year, and he ended up in the order. Similiarly, Snape
calls her a mudblood, but he still made it to the Order, albeit
after being a death Eater.
> > Jenny once again:
> > True, but James is not a vicious racist who actively hopes for
the
> > death of Lily, as Draco did in CoS. James, in fact, is very
taken
> > with Lily, as we see when he writes her initials on his papers
and
> > when he is crushed when she responds so angrily to him. Draco
has
> > never shown anything but contempt for Hermione through insulting
> her
> > and wishing for her to die. We also have to remember that
> Hermione
> > has shown no none zip zilch zero nada interest in Draco.
We have not seen Hermione been actively interested in anyone. Maybe
Krum, but that seemed mostly one sided in my opinion, so it doesnt
mean anything she doesnt care for him. And neither was Lily
interested in James at that age. Lily only seems to be doing her job
as a prefect, plus, draco hasn't done anything nearly comparable to
what James was doing, besides call people names and fail at hexes,
or tattle. He might be called a bully, but he is pretty innefectual
at it.
And for all we know, Draco scribbles HG on his tests papers. We
have no evidence for or against it. Im not saying this will or
should happen, but for all we know, it could.
--Mai (who thinks there is no canon evidence to suggest anything
conclusive about draco.)
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