OOP Re: Swan / Narcissa / Dementor / Fidelius Charm

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 67319

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, eloiseherisson at a... wrote:
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> As the initial excitement following the landing of the much fabled
> and long  awaited phoenix begins to die down, may we take the 
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> Snipping.
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> No, no, *not* SHIPping, *snipping*!
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> Yes. That. Editing out unnecessary material from the posts to which
> you reply.

Susan Atherton wrote:

<< Personally I was more intrigued by Cho's swan - I would've thought 
with all the name discussions, Cho would've had a butterfly. >>

Is a person's Patronus's form the same as the person's Animagus form? 
Because the Animagus form is a reflection of their personality. And 
swans -- when I was little, my mum used to take me and my brother to 
this big public garden with a huge pond, where our favorite part was 
feeding the swans. As beautiful as they look when on the water, they 
waddle on ugly webbed feet on land, and they *bite*. They're not so 
beautiful when biting each other in conflict over a crust of stale 
bread. I hate to think of Cho having a personality like that -- she 
was so *nice* in GoF!

Barb psychic_serpent wrote:

<< After all, Harry gives fairly good descriptions of both Bellatrix 
Lestrange (nee Black) and of Narcissa Malfoy (nee Black) in GoF, and 
they don't seem like they could genetically be full sisters. >>

Yes, I use this as my excuse to believe that Narcissa was half-sister 
to Bellatrix and Andromeda (same father, different mother), one whose 
mother refused to put up with this astronomical naming garbage. 

That allows me to save my theory that Lucius and Narcissa are first 
cousins by their mothers.

Altho' I know there is no truth to the part of my story where their 
mothers, Lucretia Malfoy and Lucasta Black, are the daughter of 
Leucothea Borgin nee Apostolopoulos, who is half-Veela...

Boggles wrote:
<< That would indicate that Dementors, whether created or not, are 
Beings rather than Beasts. This, in turn, implies that they are 
intelligent, at least as intelligent as giants. >>

I think OoP demonstrated that Dementors are Beings rather than Beasts 
-- in the very first chapter, "Dudley Demented", when a Dementor 
approaches Harry so closely that he can smell its foul breath, 
"a voice spoke inside his head: 'Bow to death, Harry ... it might 
even be painless ...  I would not know ... I have never died ...' 
That is, the Dementor uses language, which is a major part of 
distinguishing Beings from Beasts.

Anita Akh wrote:

<< How does this explain Hagrid and Sirius being able to go to the 
Potters' once Voldemort had found them? I'm guessing the murder of
the parents made the Secret moot, thus voiding the magical pact with 
Peter. >>

The explanation of Fidelius in OoP showed that the Secret Keeper 
revealing the Secret to one person did not break the Fidelius Charm 
(or Dumbledore telling the members of the Order the location of their 
headquarters would have broken the charm). 

And that the person to whom the Secret Keeper had revealed the secret 
could not in turn reveal it to someone else. So I now suppose that 
Peter, under the Potters' instructions, told Sirius and Hagrid and 
Dumbledore and maybe some other trusted people the Secret right after 
the spell was cast. He may have done so by writing it on notes of 
parchment, maybe even imitating Sirius's handwriting to preserve the 
pretense that Sirius was the Secret Keeper.