OOP: Veil - Gateway of Lost Souls

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Sat Jul 5 08:55:22 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 67546

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I am grateful to all who explained to me that the voice that Harry 
heard in his head was his new worst memory, not the Dementor talking 
to him. Now I feel stupid not to have understood that, and wonder 
what else I got wrong?

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "David" <dfrankiswork at n...> 
wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> 
> > The wizards have created a gateway to death, a doorway to the
> > other side. There is no dying, only life and death; life on this
> > side, death on that side. 
> 
> I always wonder with that sort of gate what happens if you walk 
> round the back and go through from the wrong side.

I've just started wondering whether, if the ghosts went to the Dept 
of Mysteries and glided through the Veil, would that resume their 
postponed journey?

If JKR believed in re-incarnation, souls could glide out again at 
birth.

> 
> Anyway, to be a bit more serious, I don't think we can be sure the 
> wizards created the gate.  It is described as ancient: my reaction 
> to that is 'So, this is why they built the MOM where it is - they 
> built it round this gate', which of course means that in the 
> backstory London was originally founded where it is not because of 
> the lowest Thames crossing point but because a wizarding settlement 
> was active around the gate.  (Americans, remember: something that 
> is only a few hundred years or so old wouldn't be called ancient 
> here.)
> 
> It is a possibility it has existed since the beginning of the 
> world.

And what a convenient co-incidence that the world's gateway to 
Deadland is located in Britain ... actually, I vaguely recall reading 
somewhere that Julius Caesar reported that the Celtic tribes in Gaul 
believed that the souls of their dead travelled west over the water 
to Britain (using any fallen leaf as their boats), and even mentioned 
one tribe in Britain that was exempt from paying taxes (?) because 
of their job of welcoming all the arriving dead souls and escorting 
them to their ... forest? cave? new home, anyway. So it's fair to 
argue that they were coming from much of Europe to that archway.

Altho' I read elsewhere that the Celtic people in Iberia believed 
that *their* dead souls set sail (in fallen leaves) west over the 
water from some westernmost point in Galicia, which supposedly had 
something to do with Columbus... To what archway were they 
travelling?





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