OoP: Pensieve Speculation
Jeanne
jestahijinx at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 5 20:45:54 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 67647
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "corinthum" <kkearney at s...>
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jesta Hijinx"
> <jestahijinx at h...> wrote:
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> Felinia wrote:
>
> > So far we've seen people using them on themselves exclusively -
> Dumbledore
> > and Snape, right?
>
>
> Me:
>
> I disagree. Not about the only Snape and Dumbledore part, but the
> use of the pronoun "them". We've seen Snape and Dumbledore
use "it"
> on themselves. I think it's a very important distinction. So far,
> we've seen only the one. And it is my personal, non-canon
supported
> (but non-canon contradicted) opinion that this is the only one that
> exists, and that it is an invention of Dumbledore's.
>
I disagree with you - but you're right, in that as far as canon,
we've only seen one "on-stage" at any given time.
But I somehow suspect they're meant to be personal apparati only.
Otherwise, Snape could be fishing out Dumbledore's memories while
he's working with Harry - because where does Dumbledore keep them the
rest of the time? Dumbledore is not shown taking memories out and
putting them back - he uses it to clear his head, which seems to be a
wise move.
So I completely disagree with you on your interpretation of the
existence of only one - although it may be an interpretation of
Dumbledore's. He does have quite the "Sharper Image" collection of
gadgets in his office, does he not?
> Felinia:
>
> > 2) Why doesn't Snape simply *leave* the painful memories out of
> his head
> > and in the Pensieve? I don't know if it's something that would
> harm the
> > integrity of other mental functioning - it doesn't seem to hurt
> Dumbledore -
> > and frankly, I'd think the painful teenaged memories are
something
> he'd like
> > to store somewhere else for good. I can't see that they'd do him
> much good
> > on a daily basis except to fuel a grudge that should have long
ago
> been set
> > aside and laid to rest.
>
> Me:
>
> The Pensieve belonged to Dumbledore. Snape couldn't very well
return
> the used Pensieve still carrying his own thoughts. A bit rude,
don't
> you think? :)
>
Again, I think you're quite wrong about the Pensieve belonging to
Dumbledore and being loaned out. It already had memories in it.
> Felinia:
>
> > 3) Is it possible that someone else has used the Pensieve on
> Neville at an
> > early age - or that he was taught to do it as soon as he was
able -
> to
> > remove some of the painful memories about his parents?
>
> Me:
>
> I think not, because I think there are no other Pensieves for
anyone
> other than Dumbledore's. But that's just me.
>
> -Corinth
Yes, you're right - it is just you. :-) But you're entitled, and
right now canon doesn't definitively support going either way.
But I'd like to move the discussion back to the points I've made -
using the, I think well-grounded guess, that there is more than one
Pensieve because Dumbledore *wouldn't* lend his out.
Felinia
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