OoP: Pensieve Speculation

Jeanne jestahijinx at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 5 20:45:54 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 67647

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "corinthum" <kkearney at s...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jesta Hijinx" 
> <jestahijinx at h...> wrote:
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> Felinia wrote:
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> > So far we've seen people using them on themselves exclusively - 
> Dumbledore 
> > and Snape, right?
> 
> 
> Me:
> 
> I disagree.  Not about the only Snape and Dumbledore part, but the 
> use of the pronoun "them".  We've seen Snape and Dumbledore 
use "it" 
> on themselves.  I think it's a very important distinction.  So far, 
> we've seen only the one.  And it is my personal, non-canon 
supported 
> (but non-canon contradicted) opinion that this is the only one that 
> exists, and that it is an invention of Dumbledore's.  
> 
I disagree with you - but you're right, in that as far as canon, 
we've only seen one "on-stage" at any given time.

But I somehow suspect they're meant to be personal apparati only.  
Otherwise, Snape could be fishing out Dumbledore's memories while 
he's working with Harry - because where does Dumbledore keep them the 
rest of the time?  Dumbledore is not shown taking memories out and 
putting them back - he uses it to clear his head, which seems to be a 
wise move.

So I completely disagree with you on your interpretation of the 
existence of only one - although it may be an interpretation of 
Dumbledore's.  He does have quite the "Sharper Image" collection of 
gadgets in his office, does he not?

> Felinia: 
> 
> > 2)  Why doesn't Snape simply *leave* the painful memories out of 
> his head 
> > and in the Pensieve?  I don't know if it's something that would 
> harm the 
> > integrity of other mental functioning - it doesn't seem to hurt 
> Dumbledore - 
> > and frankly, I'd think the painful teenaged memories are 
something 
> he'd like 
> > to store somewhere else for good.  I can't see that they'd do him 
> much good 
> > on a daily basis except to fuel a grudge that should have long 
ago 
> been set 
> > aside and laid to rest.
> 
> Me:
> 
> The Pensieve belonged to Dumbledore.  Snape couldn't very well 
return 
> the used Pensieve still carrying his own thoughts.  A bit rude, 
don't 
> you think?  :)
> 
Again, I think you're quite wrong about the Pensieve belonging to 
Dumbledore and being loaned out.  It already had memories in it.

> Felinia:
> 
> > 3)  Is it possible that someone else has used the Pensieve on 
> Neville at an 
> > early age - or that he was taught to do it as soon as he was 
able - 
> to 
> > remove some of the painful memories about his parents?  
> 
> Me:
> 
> I think not, because I think there are no other Pensieves for 
anyone 
> other than Dumbledore's.  But that's just me.
> 
> -Corinth
Yes, you're right - it is just you.  :-)  But you're entitled, and 
right now canon doesn't definitively support going either way.

But I'd like to move the discussion back to the points I've made - 
using the, I think well-grounded guess, that there is more than one 
Pensieve because Dumbledore *wouldn't* lend his out.

Felinia





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