Harry is an ungrateful spoiled brat.

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 67868

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, SnapesSlytherin at a... wrote:
> But isn't that the point?  That it *is* supposed to be like that?  
All we 
> ever hear from anyone is how much Harry is like his father, how 
great Harry is, 
> and how "we can expect great things from you [Harry] ... after all, 
He Who Must 
> Not Be Named did great things, terrible, yes, but great."  (There's 
some 
> movie poisoning in there, but I like how that line sounded in the 
movie!).    
> Harry is supposed to be able to overcome his feelings - that's his 
character!  
> Snape is the guy who cannot get over school even years after it has 
happened. 


Me: Oh, I disagree. I think they both will have to be able to 
overcome their hostility towards each other and I think that Severus 
should put the lion share of effort in it. You know, being an adult 
and all. :)

I have faith in Harry being able to forgive Snape in the end.

If Snape won't be able to do the same, I would be VERY disappointed.
I know that many many fans love Severus as he is right now and  
everybody entitled to their opinion.

I love him too (very much, actually), but I love him because he is 
trying to change. I don't want him to be the same at the end. I don't 
want him to become NICE, but I want him to be able to overcome what 
he feels towards Harry and find some peace.


> Snape has reasons to hate Harry.  They *did* Stun him during the 
Shrieking 
> Shack scene.  Whatever reasons anyone thinks they had - doesn't 
matter.  They.  
> Stunned.  A.  Teacher.  Lupin was right when he told the Trio they 
should've 
> left Snape to him. 

 Me: Yeah, they should've left Snape to Lupin, but it would be less 
interesting.
Besides, Sev's hatred started much earlier than that.


 Everyone defends what Sirius does 
> just because he was nice to Harry.  Oooh... so *that's* what makes 
someone 
> worth defending, now is it?  I'll remember that for next time...

Me: I love Sirius. I am still in denial over his death, but him 
loving Harry is far from being the only reason why I always defend 
him.
I defend him, because I think that he paid more than enough for 
whatever mistakes he did in his youth. I defend him, because I know 
that he suffered in Azkaban unjustly. Say what you want about Karma, 
but I think that twelve years in prison is a little too much for 
bullying in school.
Of course, the fact that he loves Harry adds to the picture. I think 
it is OK sometimes to evaluate the supporting characters  based on    
their attitude to the main character, especially if I am very fond of 
the main one.

Yes, I know that in the Rowling books nothing is as it looks and 
villain can pretend to be a nice guy and vice versa, but still...


You know, I just though of something else. Although Severus' 
mysterious past is part of the attraction of this character for me, 
it make harder for me sometimes to identify with him than with 
Sirius. For example, I know Sirius is capable of love, looking at him 
and Harry. Yes, he is capable of hate too, of course, but when I look 
at Severus, I sometimes question whether he can love at all, or  the 
only feelings which he has left is his honor and his hate of the dead 
man, which he transfers to his son.

I suspect that it is not true, but I would like to see it, that is 
why I loved Pensieve scene so much.


By the way, I have to be honest and say something else. Before OOP I 
was one hundred percent sure that whatever fate awaits Severus at the 
end, he will never turn back to the Dark Side. After OOP, I have my 
doubts. He disobeyed Dumbledore's direct order and I wonder whether 
the saying "Once a traitor - always a traitor" will turn out to be 
true.

I would be very upset if it happens. I want him being able to achieve 
redemption, but again now I am not sure. Before OOP Dumbledore's 
constant reminder that he trusts Snape was reassuring. After seeing 
Dumbledore's stupidity it is not anymore, for me at least.

Again, I don't think that such scenario is very probable. I hope Sev 
will surivive the war and will be able to have some happiness, but 
with Rowling we never know, right? ;)

Alla