Who's at fault for Snape v. Harry?/sexy slytherin

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No: HPFGUIDX 68206

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" 
<bard7696 at a...> wrote:
> > 
>> 
> These kids, whether Snape likes it or not, and, I daresay he 
DOESN'T 
> like it, have a knack for solving things.
> 
> Look at the words used to describe Snape in that scene. All the 
> emphases will be mine.
> 
> pg 253: "Severus, you're making a mistake," said Lupin 
urgently. "You 
> haven't heard everything - I can explain - Sirius is not here to 
kill 
> Harry - "
> 
> "Two more for Azkaban tonight," said Snape, his eyes NOW GLEAMING 
> FANATICALLY. "I shall be interested to see how Dumbledore takes 
> this... he was quite convinced you were harmless, you know, 
Lupin... 
> a tame werewolf..."
> 
> In the next paragraph, Lupin says, softly: "You fool. Is a 
schoolboy 
> grudge worth putting an innocent man back inside Azkaban?"
> 
> So, he's ready, before Lupin even uses the "schoolboy grudge" 
Snape 
> is ready to slap them both in cuffs.
> 
> Pg 254. Hermione urges Snape to hear what they have to say.
> 
> "KEEP QUIET YOU STUPID GIRL!" Snape shouted, LOOKING SUDDENLY 
QUITE 
> DERANGED. 
> 
> Sirius then says he'll come quietly, so long as Ron brings 
Scabbers 
> along, figuring D-Dore would get it solved.
> 
> Snape refuses, planning to call the dementors on the spot. Sirius 
> protests.
> 
> "But there was a MAD GLINT in Snape's eye that Harry had never 
seen 
> before. He seemed beyond reason."
> 
> Page 255. 
> 
> Snape starts bragging about saving Harry's life, but Harry points 
out 
> that Lupin could have killed him at any time during the year, were 
he 
> helping Black. Snape and Harry yell at each other, and Harry does 
> call Snape "pathetic" for not listening, then: 
> 
> "SILENCE! I WILL NOT BE SPOKEN TOO LIKE THAT!" Snape SHRIEKED, 
> LOOKING MADDER THAN EVER. "Like father like son, Potter! I have 
just 
> saved your neck, you should be THANKING ME ON BENDED KNEE! You 
would 
> have been well served IF HE'D KILLED YOU!"
> 
>> Knowing what we know now about the antagonism between Snape and 
the 
> MWPP, I don't believe this was an act. I believe he wanted Sirius' 
> hide nailed to the wall and wasn't going to hear any story to the 
> contrary, no matter how logical or far-fetched it might have been.
> 
> And the fact that he didn't want Dumbledore anywhere near the 
case, 
> as evidenced by Snape serving as judge, jury and executioner by 
> planning to call the Dementors straightaway, tells me he knew in 
his 
> heart of hearts something was fishy about the story.
> 
> > 
> As an aside, I've always thought Dumbledore's line to Snape, "My 
> memory is as good as it ever was," can be translated thusly:
> 
> "Yes, Severus, I remember what Sirius Black did. I also remember 
what 
> you did as a Death Eater, so please don't question my tendency 
toward 
> second chances again."
> 
> Ok, back from the aside. My overriding point here is that Snape 
was 
> beyond reason, beyond logic and beyond dealing with. 
> 
> > Darrin
> -- Sorry for the long post. I still think PoA is my favorite book 
and 
> I love quoting from it.

OK list elves, I'm sorry I didn't snip more of this to reply but I 
think it's all really important. Because there is so much canon, and 
above is one of the best examples, that Snape is not a tortured 
soul, he's just a, hmmmmm, antiquated sexist term dealing with the 
marital status of one's mother.

I'll try not to make this ton's longer by doing page by page 
quoutes, but his nasty comments when Hermione's teeth grow, his 
torture of the already struggling Neville and above all, the 
behaviour in PoA which Darrin points up point not to a poet but to a 
case of severe arrested development. 

Alright, so some identify with Snape's snarl , swoon over the power 
of Lucius, sigh over the sadly misled Draco...

Do we really want to cuddle with someone who delights in taunting 
school children, someone who plots the murder of a child and sports 
with the lives of the innocent, someone who sucks up to Umbridge....

EEEEWWWWW! (not the most intelligent response, but accurate)

dorothy