Mundungus and the Overheard Prophesy

l3al3y_Doll_3 Kiss2Kiss1 at aol.com
Tue Jul 8 06:39:57 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 68293

"jsmithqwert" wrote:

> I want to know if anyone else thinks that it is possible 
> that Mundungus overheard the entire prophesy and, at some later 
> point, thrown from the bar because he had been permanently 
banned.  
> Sometime later, his shady dealings got him involved with the wrong 
> crowd and either chose to dislose the prophesy (being ignorant of 
the consequences) or was forced to do so.  Perhaps he tried, 
> unsuccessfully, to move from a petty thief to the more 
sophisticated and powerful occupation of trafficker of information.  
Anyway, in the midst of his disclosure, Dumbledore "helped him out of 
a tight spot" by saving him from a situation that was obviously beyond his 
control.
> 
> I invision, perhaps, Mundungus hoping to make a tidy profit by 
> selling the information he has to someone connected to Voldemort.  
> Unfortunately, they are unable to reach an agreement (maybe 
Mundungus figures he can get Dumbledore to pay him not to disclose the 
prophesy or maybe the Potters, who would be glad to unload some of their 
gold to keep Voldemort off of Harry); however, he has disclosed what it 
is he wants to sell and the purchasing Voldemort agent is rabbidly 
> interested.  He/she figures: if he won't sell it to me, we'll 
force it out of him and uses crucio or something similar.  A little 
while later, Mundungus has disclosed the first part and, ever the 
> businessman, trying to bargain with the second part (perhaps to 
save his life).  In the meantime, Dumbledore has figured out what is 
going on from some of his many sources (Hogshead bartender/owner 
> Aberforth?) and rushes to save Mundungus, and what remains of the 
> prophetic secret, from Voldemort's agents. >>>>>


What I don't understand is why anyone believes Mundungus to be the 
spy in the first place. Is it because he listened on the DA's first 
meeting? Well, so were a few other people. Just because he was in 
the Hog's Head once in disguise eavesdropping, doesn't mean that was 
the case sixteen years prior.

Dumbledore himself says the eavesdropper thrown out of the building 
was working for Voldemort. Mundungus works for the Order now, so I 
doubt he was ever in cahoots with Voldemort. Yes we could say the 
same things about him that we've learned about Snape- that 
Dumbledore decided to give him a chance and now trusts him, but 
really we can't. We've never been given any information about 
Mundungus's past, especially anything pertaining to what I mentioned 
above.  

I don't believe Mundungus was the spy, not even close. He is a 
sketchy businessman, and that's it. His loyalties lie within the 
Order. I think he'll remain a character throughout the book, but not 
one we happen to find out some shocking secret about. 


-Maritza






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