Mundungus and the Overheard Prophesy

jsmithqwert jsmithqwert at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 8 04:26:32 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 68267

I've read the book explanation and all (I think) of the posts and 
wonder if anyone else thinks that there is room for an alternate 
understanding of how the prophesy was overheard.

A number of people seem to believe that Mundungus was the person who 
overheard the prophesy, and, within the set of characters that we 
know, I would tend to agree.  However, it was also pointed out that 
the prophesy was very short and that bodily removing someone in the 
middle of it without their overhearing the whole thing presents a 
problem.  I want to know if anyone else thinks that it is possible 
that Mundungus overheard the entire prophesy and, at some later 
point, thrown from the bar because he had been permanently banned.  
Sometime later, his shady dealings got him involved with the wrong 
crowd and either chose to dislose the prophesy (being ignorant of the 
consequences) or was forced to do so.  Perhaps he tried, 
unsuccessfully, to move from a petty thief to the more sophisticated 
and powerful occupation of trafficker of information.  Anyway, in the 
midst of his disclosure, Dumbledore "helped him out of a tight spot" 
by saving him from a situation that was obviously beyond his control.

I invision, perhaps, Mundungus hoping to make a tidy profit by 
selling the information he has to someone connected to Voldemort.  
Unfortunately, they are unable to reach an agreement (maybe Mundungus 
figures he can get Dumbledore to pay him not to disclose the prophesy 
or maybe the Potters, who would be glad to unload some of their gold 
to keep Voldemort off of Harry); however, he has disclosed what it is 
he wants to sell and the purchasing Voldemort agent is rabbidly 
interested.  He/she figures: if he won't sell it to me, we'll force 
it out of him and uses crucio or something similar.  A little while 
later, Mundungus has disclosed the first part and, ever the 
businessman, trying to bargain with the second part (perhaps to save 
his life).  In the meantime, Dumbledore has figured out what is going 
on from some of his many sources (Hogshead bartender/owner 
Aberforth?) and rushes to save Mundungus, and what remains of the 
prophetic secret, from Voldemort's agents. 

I think that this theory, while probably inaccurate, matches what we 
can surmise about the situation.  It would be difficult, if not 
impossible, to remove someone who had heard the first part of the 
prophesy from the Hogshead without he/she hearing the rest.  
Mundungus would clearly try to use whatever means was at his disposal 
to turn a buck and also seems to have little prudence of the 
consequences of his dealings (i.e. abandoning Harry to pick-up stolen 
cauldrens).  Dumbledore, of course, will go to any length to protect 
the prophesy, even if it means associating himself with shady 
characters.

My thouts,
jsmithqwert





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