[HPforGrownups] Re: The Elf Problem (OoP)

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Patricia writes:


> Thanks, need to look that up now :) Though I assumed that the 
> payment for embroidery was more of the trading type payment as 
> opposed to hertasi getting payed by their Tayledras for services 
> rendered (payed meaning money..do Tayledras even have money??)
> 

Someone mentioned how Hermione keeps on pushing human thoughts onto other 
beings.  "Anthro" something "isism" or something of the sort.  Other Human 
culters have strange thoughts as well, orginally gypsies didn't have a concept of 
money or personal property.

Imagine how diffrent another race views something?  this is why SPEW as it 
is, is doomed to failure

> 
> > Gesten reguarally called Amberdrake/Skan an idiot if I recall 
> correctly.  Not 
> > even Dobby would dream of that.
> 
> Ohh, could you imagine Lucius's face? That would be priceless! 
> 

*makes a note to write a crossover if magical hertasi  lizards being hired 
because people loose thier elves to SPEW*

<snip>

> 
> > 
> > So, the well treated house elves might be "getting paid" already, 
> because 
> > they are praised and thanked etc.  Besides, what can Dobby do with 
> money anyways?
> > 
> >  On the other hand, it 
> > > 
> > > was mentioned somewhere (don't recall where, I believe Ron said 
> it) 
> > > that house elves only come with old Manors and castles. Which 
> then 
> > > would most likely be owned by the old, pure-blood families. And 
> from 
> > > what we have seen so far, they all seem to be like the Malfoys 
> (hate 
> > > Muggles and so on)So I doubt they would treat their house elves 
> any 
> > > better than the Malfoy's did. 
> > > 
> > 
> > A very good point.  Perhaps, the treatment of house-elves, 
> changed, just as 
> > the perception of Salazar's philosophy changed?
> > 
> 
> so praise+shelter as payment? Hm, sounds like an interesting idea. I 
> really wish we knew more about the history of the house-elves and 
> how their contracts with the wizarding families started. And exactly 
> how powerful they really are. 

Praise shelter and food.

Powerful enough to knock Lucuis down, powerful enough to get past the Wards 
on Privit Drive and Hogwarts.

> A war maybe with the elves as the looser and one of the conditions 
> was the servitude?

I recall an oft used phrase "Goblin Uprisings" Uprising indicates they were 
put down before, not equels.  Would explain why the Goblins only work in their 
bank and seem rather...sulky.

More evidence of cruddy homo-centric wizarding philosophy.


> Or it started out as a more equal partnership, protections (or 
> praise) in return for service?
> I just hope hermione gets to the roots of this with spew so that we 
> can find out. It really surprises me that she hasn't scrouged the 
> library for that topic yet. 
> 

She's so convinced she's right, that's why.  She's never had to double check 
before, and "all the evidence" is right there in front of her.  She doesn't 
even ask Dobby!

 
> ADMIN Note: Discussion of Hertasi etc which do not involve  the works of JKR 
>   should be continued off-list or on OT-Chatter. Thanks!
> 

Gotcha, I think we managed to steer it back on topic though

Nemi, wants Talyladras cloathing too

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