[HPforGrownups] Hermione attempted murder!

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No: HPFGUIDX 69450

In a message dated 11/07/03 05:08:45 GMT Daylight Time, 
SnapesSlytherin at aol.com writes:


> In a message dated 7/10/03 8:46:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> falcon21 at earthlink.net writes:
> >   I feel the need to respond to this. I think people are getting too hung 
> > up
> >   on their own feelings about certain issues. I don't consider it murder 
> per 
> > se,
> >   because...well...Umbridge deserved whatever she got. I've been reading 
> > this list for quite a while, and the fact that so many people get upset 
> about 
> > F/G stepping on Malfoy and crew, James being mean to Snape, Harry blowing 
> his 
> > top and tormenting Dudley, Hermione being perfect, and a host of other 
> > complaints just blows me away. I mean, geeze people, chill out. 
> >   Sorry for that, but I read this list for the intense thought provoking 
> > discussion, not the whining about bad characters being 
> > mistreated/injured/killed. The ends justify the means. 
> >   If tricking Umbridge into the forest gets her killed, then I'm all for 
> it, 
> > long as she is removed as an obstacle.
> 
> Whoa...*five minute pause*
> 
> Okay, now that I'm recovered.  Where to start without offending 
> anyone...hell, can't do it, but I'll try.  You have to see things from more 
> than one point o
> f view.  You can't just say "Oh!  Harry and his friends are the good guys so 
> 
> they can do whatever they damn well please!"  It don't work like that.  No 
> one 
> ever deserves to die.  Maybe I'm just over reacting but you in essence just 
> told us to quit bitching.  So we should just all lie down and see things 
> black 
> and white?  No thank you.  It could just be that the first two are things I 
> believe are wrong and it felt like a personal attack...
> 
> That's what a good book does in my opinion, it gets you involved using your 
> own feelings and opinions.  They're not really complaints so much as topics. 
>  
> You can feel however you want about topics, you can even feel that we should 
> 
> shut up, but they're still our opinions.  I think that was a little harsh of 
> you 
> to say.

Well SAID!  Whoo hoo!  am I allowed to post with just that?  ok I started 
this thread so I shoudl comment back...
WELL... whatever was gonna happen to the gang, having someone killed is just 
too far.  I also thought of JK not having Umbridge die in the hands of 
Hermione, but if JK did let it happen, how would Hermione handle it when she knew 
exactly what she was doing?  (She was very determined about where they were 
going, you can tell by her actions she knows what she is doing - I dont have the 
book with me right now).  Its also argued about saving Sirius life, well 
Hermione knew that Sirius wasn't there.  She knew.  She only went because of Harry 
and to make sure that he wouldnt do anything stupid (she didnt do a good job).  
I mean, Hermione wasnt thick enough to believe  that Voldie was in the MoM at 
5 o clock in the afternoon!  (im not saying Harry is thick, he was obvious 
blinded by his love for Sirius)
My point is anyway, that Hermione knew what she was doing.  And she described 
the centaurs as 'murderous' after leaving the forest on their visit to Grawp.


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