Regulus' Death (was Questions about the Original Order,)
kiricat2001
Zarleycat at aol.com
Sat Jul 12 06:10:19 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69655
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Grosskreutz"
<ivanova at i...> wrote:
> greatlit2003 wrote:
>
> > Here is a list of the people who were killed the year Harry was
born:
> >
> > Evan Rosier, alleged friend of Snape's and fellow DE. He bit off
> > Moody's nose. (why did JKR name him Evan? So closely related to
> > Lily's name...)
> >
> > Wilkes, another alleged Snape friend and DE (don't know gender)
> >
> > Regulus Black, who was killed by DEs on V-mort's orders
> >
> I thought Rosier and Wilkes were killed after Harry's birth.
Regulus was
> before, not sure how far before.
> >
> > Moody showed Harry a photo of the Original Order, and pointed out
who
> > had died. If you follow the above timeline, the photo was taken
> > between 1978-1980. Once again, why so many deaths in that
particular
> > time period? Could this be the reason why Snape hates Harry so
much?
Why would this be Harry's fault, as he was an infant at the time and
couldn't have done a whole lot to change things???
> For the record,
> it was somewhere in this time that Snape switched sides as well.
We don't
> know why at the moment, but I'm willing to bet it was after Regulus
was
> killed. I see Regulus and the circumstances surrounding his death
as being
> important and perhaps influential to Snape, who may already have
been
> questioning his allegiance.
I've been thinking about this and haven't had time to try to figure
out the timing with whatever Dumbledore said in the Pensieive scene
in GoF about Snape's activities.
We know that Snape has been teaching at Hogwarts for 14 years. Does
that mean that in OoP he is in his 14th year of teaching, or does he
mean that he's completed 14 years of teaching and is now in his 15th
year?
We know that Regulus Black died "some 15 years" ago.
Here's a theory with no more canon than the above incomplete
timeline. What if, in his DE days, Snape was ordered to kill Regulus
Black? What if, at this time, Snape was already having doubts about
what he was doing with the DEs? But, the order comes from Vmort
to "kill Black." What if Snape, in a last effort at keeping faith
with the DEs obeys this command, thinking he's being told to kill
Sirius Black? And, okay, maybe he's not thrilled about having to do
this, but at least he's being told to kill someone he has no love for.
Think of about it - Snape shows up. There's a black-haired man,
blinkfolded and bound. Snape thinks he recognizes this person, whips
out his wand and AKs him. Then, the blindfold is removed, Snape sees
that it wasn't Sirius, but his younger brother, and realizes that he
is no more than a tool in Voldemort's hands. His actions, which he
had doubts about to begin with, have killed someone that he had no
quarrel with. This proves to him that Voldemort will use people as
far as he can, but that once they are no longer useful to him, he
will dispose of them.
This realization is the final straw that sends Snape to Dumbledore.
This at least would let him know in no
> uncertain terms that you don't just walk up to the Dark Lord and
say you
> want out.
> I do think once Trelawny gave her prophecy and both sides knew at
least a
> portion of it, the war escalated. Nothing to back me up as of yet;
it just
> feels right.
I think you're on the right track here.
Marianne
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