Snape - A very good hater

[Anne(Anja)]

No: HPFGUIDX 69681

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "marika_thestral" 
<marika_thestral at y...> wrote:
> Me:
> Maybe not convinced, but in a way it makes sense. I can picture 
> young Snape making this Florence pregnant by mistake. Something he 
> probably didn't like at all. As already mentioned, he was in that 
> case probably not a loving caring person - rather somebody who 
either 
> didn't take much part in their lives or just decided to stick 
around 
> without too much of an effort to make anyone happy.
> 

I agree that the hooked-nosed man in the memory could have been Snape 
himself but I doubt this highly. First of all , I think that Harry 
would have recognized Snape , furthermore the other memories he sees 
(the boy in the bedroom , the bucking broomstick) are childhood 
memories as well so I just can't see why the first one should be an 
exception. Beside , it seems as Harry identified the boy crying in th 
corner as Snape since he thinks something alike to : "it was 
unnerving to think that the little boy who had been crying as he 
watched his parents shouting was actually standing in front of him 
with such loathing in his eyes ..."
So I assume it was Snape's father we have seen while he was shouting 
at his mother. 

Nevertheless I still can see Florence (or another girl Snape was in 
love with) in those memories. Where ? Let's try the girl who "was 
laughing as a scrawny boy tried to mount a bucking broomstick.
There is no evidence she was laughing at "him" , we only learn that 
she was laughing because the whole situation was kind of funny. It 
may have been a good-natured laugh between two friends , nothing more.
The broomstick incident might have happened during his schooldays at 
Hogwarts since it reminds me very strongly of - NEVILLE ! Just 
remember his first flying lesson in book 1 : His broomstick was also 
bucking WITHOUT being hexed , just because he was so afraid and had 
absolutely no self-confidence. 
Actually I see Kid!Snape as someone as angsty and insecure as Neville 
is. Obviously this has nothing to do with lack of talent or 
intelligence. We know that Neville can be a good student and we also 
know that he can be very brave - always remember he has been sorted 
into Gryffindor for a reason ! I think his "problem" is that he 
suffers greatly from his parents illness and the fact that they had 
been tortured by some DEs. That's what overshadowed his whole 
childhood and probably caused his lack of self-confidence. 
Now there is Snape who probably comes from an abusive family. The 
memory with the crying boy and the shouting man says quite a lot and 
it doesn't really give the impression of a loving upbringing. Then 
there's the fact that his clothes seem to be a little filthy as does 
the dark room with the flies. We know from the Weasleys that being a 
pureblood doesn't necessarily mean you're rich so it is quite 
possible that the Snapes weren't exactly wealthy. 
I can see little Severus suffering from all this as does Neville from 
his parents' illness. Just remember how easily the Marauders were 
able to taunt him despite the fact that Snape was said to be knee-
deep into the dark arts. He didn't really defend himself (except one 
curse he shot at James). IMHO , this has nothing to do with him not 
having sufficient knowledge or talent but simply with the fact that 
he was too scared to do anything really effective. This is also 
something which reminds me very strongly of Neville.
So back to the bucking broomstick. Yes , I believe that Snape (at 
least in his first years at Hogwarts) was an absolutely disastrous 
student when it came to flying lessons. This may also be the reason 
Lupin always told Harry that Snape was jealous of James because of 
his talent on the Quidditch pitch. He may have really believed he was 
since Snape wasn't even able to mount (!) a broomstick. 
So here is my try on the laughing girl : What about Florence teaching 
young Snape how to fly ? She must have been succesful since we know 
that Snape even managed to play Quidditch later on (he must have - 
otherwise he couldn't have been a referee during Harry's Quidditch 
match in book 1). He also seems to be quite passionate about 
Quidditch , at least he never seems to miss a match and really likes 
to discuss them with McGonnagall. 
This flying lessons may have been the start of a friendship with 
Florence which resulted in the infamous kiss behind the greenhouse. I 
still can't fathom why Dumbledore seems to be so sad about the fact 
that Bertha went after them but it may be a hint that Florence is 
already dead. I don't know why but I have the strong feeling that she 
died as a teenager although I can't exactly tell you why. 

Just my thoughts ...

    Sympa