[HPforGrownups] Re: A far-fetched analysis of the Prophecy
lissbell at colfax.com
lissbell at colfax.com
Mon Jul 14 06:50:57 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 70112
kellymcj2000 wrote:
> Regarding the double-meaning Dumbledore, what do you make of
> the "inclining his head slightly" when Harry asks about the howler.
> He certainly isn't saying it was his voice or his "last" is he,
> although Harry is left to assume so. I think it has something to do
> with Petunia's mom and a last promise Petunia agreed to keep for
> her. I think I went on about that in a different post. Anyhow, your
> thoughts?
Lissa replied:
Because Harry hadn't recognized the voice in the howler I was surprised
to learn Dumbledore sent it. It hadn't occurred to me that Dumbledore
might have kept a howler created by someone else in case it was someday
needed. This makes good sense now that you've pointed it out. The
wording of the howler is so unusual it really ought to have more
meaning. When I read it, I thought perhaps it would end up having to do
with someone's last will & testament or something along those lines. I
think your idea that it may have been Petunia's mom is a sound one. It
also could be Lily, I suppose. Very interesting, indeed.
KelMc wrote:
> I really don't get though how it all works out. How are you thinking
> the series will end? Surely, just-shy-of-eighteen Harry doesn't get
> sweet sixteen Ginny pregnant? The books just don't seem to go that
> route.
Lissa replied:
I can only speculate. My firm preference is that JKR preserve Ginny's
dignity and avoid victimizing her no matter *what* else she does. As to
how a Ginny pregnancy could come about, well... I have several thoughts
on this. One: the series contains multiple references to love potions
and we have an instance of a brilliant witch--Hermione--using a
potion--the polyjuice--with unintended results. I think it's possible
someone might brew a love potion intended for fun, and either Harry or
Ginny could end up drinking it unknowingly with unwanted consequences.
(I can only see this happening if Harry and Ginny were in a relationship
though. Otherwise it really *would* be too dark for the rest of the
series.) I also think it's possible--especially if Rowling wants to
push the Dark Lord as an inverse Christ figure idea to an extreme--that
there could be a nonsexual conception resulting from a spell gone wrong.
(I don't think this is likely, though.) Most probably, I see Harry
and Ginny falling into a romance in book six or seven and as Harry's
time at Hogwarts draws to a close--or as the war escalates and they
think it's likely they could die--perhaps the couple just chooses to
pursue a more adult relationship. Whatever she does, I suspect JKR will
handle the whole thing with care.
As far as the books not going this route, I think the series has always
been touched with horror and sorrow. Yes, I think some people will be
bothered if Rowling does indeed take the series the direction I've
suggested, but a lot of people are already bothered by HP.
KelMc wrote:
> how... could Ginny be pregnant and transported back in time
> by the end of book seven? Do you think this conclusion will only
> strongly be alluded to at the end of the book? Perhaps the reader is
> left with no doubt that the above will play out in Harry and Ginny's
> future?
Lissa replied:
If my theory ends up being correct, the moment Ginny goes back in time,
it's all over. Realistically, Ginny could step back in time in the
first part of the last chapter and the remainder of that Chapter would
cover Harry learning the truth and having to deal with the consequences.
In my opinion the fact that Harry and Ginny are Tom's parents forms
the basis for the whole series and supports its fundamental theme.
There is no *way* Rowling will merely allude to it if it's true.
If it's part of Harry and Ginny's future, it could easily be avoided.
It's just my opinion, of course, but I think it has to be something
that's already happened by the time Harry realizes the truth.
KelMc wrote:
> I think the latter is a bit unlikely. As you yourself have mentioned
> the far-fetchedness of your theory I think I can disagree with some
> of it without offending. :)
Lissa replied:
I'm not offended at all. :) I loved your comments and I know--believe
me--how ridiculous the theory sounds. Maybe book 6 will blow all my
nutty ideas out of the realm of possibility anyway.
Sorry it took me so long to respond. Weekends are nightmarishly busy
for me.
Cheers,
Lissa B
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