A far-fetched analysis of the Prophecy

kellymcj2000 kelly at protocallonline.com
Sat Jul 12 04:45:24 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 69642

Lissa wrote:
>>>>I said it before and I say it again now:  I believe Harry Potter 
and Ginny Weasley are Tom Marvolo Riddle's parents. <<<<<


I think your theory is brilliantly thought out and answers so many of 
the nagging questions and feelings of "there's something else going 
on here" that I've had when reading this series.  
 
Lissa (taken from reply to Random): 
>>>>In any case, I don't believe Dumbledore is lying.  I don't believe   
he's mistaken.  He's telling Harry the literal truth, but relying on 
the fact that "last remaining" is used commonly to mean "only 
remaining".<<
 
and later...
>>>> I grant that Dumbledore is being deceitful in this passage, but 
he's engaging in linguistic gymnastics to spare Harry's feelings. <<<  

and later still...
>>>>Dumbledore is a manipulative genius.)<<<<<


Yeah baby.  That wiley old fox (bumblebee my foot)and JKR are always 
counting on Harry/us to take things literally.  They know we're so 
desperate for answers we'll jump to the conclusions they want us to 
make.  Regarding the double-meaning Dumbledore, what do you make of 
the "inclining his head slightly" when Harry asks about the howler.  
He certainly isn't saying it was his voice or his "last" is he, 
although Harry is left to assume so.  I think it has something to do 
with Petunia's mom and a last promise Petunia agreed to keep for 
her.  I think I went on about that in a different post.  Anyhow, your 
thoughts?


Lissa also wrote:
> A *brilliant* woman named Bonnie wrote me before OOP arrived and 
gave me 
> another piece of evidence for my theory.  The first significant 
thing we 
> read about in Chapter One of PS is Voldemort's murder of Lily and 
James 
> and his attempt to murder Harry.  If my theory is true, Tom has 
just 
> killed his grandparents and tried to kill his father as the last 
act of 
> his pre-limbo life.  This neatly parallels the revelation in 
Chapter One 
> of GoF in which we learn (confirmed at the end of that book) that 
Tom Jr 
> murdered Tom Riddle Sr and his parents--the people Tom Jr 
*believes* to 
> be his grandparents and father. (This is probably the *first* 
murder in 
> his pre-limbo life.  The Potters were certainly his last.) This 
parallel 
> is too profound, in my opinion, to be mere coincidence. I give 
Bonnie a 
> thousand sincere and humble thanks for pointing it out.


And Harry is being brought up by a set of parents and their son who 
abhor what he is.  Another muggle father/mother/son trio who deny the 
existence of magic in the family.  Harry though will probably have 
more sense than to kill them, although someone suggested once they 
may end up being killed somehow.  That'd be too bad.  They should 
have to continue to live their miserable little lives as punishment 
for their bigotry.:)


I really don't get though how it all works out.  How are you thinking 
the series will end?  Surely, just-shy-of-eighteen Harry doesn't get 
sweet sixteen Ginny pregnant?  The books just don't seem to go that 
route.  I agree there is more to the time-turning (not just the 
rescue of Sirius,) and the numerous correlations between the Potters 
and H/G, and everything else you've noted, but how, even given all 
this evidence, could Ginny be pregnant and transported back in time 
by the end of book seven?  Do you think this conclusion will only 
strongly be alluded to at the end of the book?  Perhaps the reader is 
left with no doubt that the above will play out in Harry and Ginny's 
future?

I think the latter is a bit unlikely.  As you yourself have mentioned 
the far-fetchedness of your theory I think I can disagree with some 
of it without offending. :) (tentatively) Anyhow, I think everything 
you say is very valid, but as I don't completely understand all of it 
I can't say what my final analysis of your evidence would be.   

Lissa:
> Oh, this is probably complete silliness.  Ignore my 
> goofy ramblings.


Nonsense.  You're far too humble.  And your theory is much too 
interesting to ignore even if it all turns out to be "complete 
silliness".  It's so much fun to speculate on!

By the way, I followed your link and read your original post and some 
of the replies.  I still don't quite grasp it all.  I can't even 
really articulate what it is I don't understand.  But, like I said, 
it's a hugely fun theory!  I love it and I hope it's not true.

KelMc






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