The Ultimate Betrayer
Susan Smith
atroposgryffin at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 16 15:59:57 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 70886
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...>
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tracie"
> <tracie622 at y...> wrote:
> > I have been going over all the threads and posts about Snape,
> and
> > thought I would add some. First, I do not trust Snape. I
believe
> > he will be the ultimate betrayer to the Order. He was a Death
> > Eater, and yes, DD believes him to be reformed. I don't..I
think
> > he is a spy...he is at Hogwarts with Harry and DD. Wouldn't LV
> want someone inside Hogwarts to watch every move they both
> make?? Who better fits this but Snape?
>
> If Snape were in Voldemort's pocket, why would Voldemort have
> needed to possess Quirrell? He could have sent Snape after the
> Stone. Anyway, the place Voldemort really needs a spy is in the
> Order, not Hogwarts.
>
>
>
> > Second, I do not believe that he was actually trying to teach
> Harry Occlumency, I believe that he was using it as a means of
> opening up Harry's mind more to Voldemort's. Making it easier
> for LV to penetrate Harry's thoughts...in fact, this happens during
> one such supposed Occlumency lesson...Harry goes down the
> corridor. Harry himself keeps saying..."he's making it worse".<
>
> What if Snape is teaching Occlumency properly, but Harry's
> positive emotions, what Dumbledore calls his "heart," were
> keeping Voldemort out of Harry's mind all along, not just at the
> end. By learning to suppress his emotions, Harry did indeed
> making himself weaker.
>
> Snape had no way to know this would happen. He says the link
> between Harry and Voldemort doesn't follow the usual rules of
> Occlumency/Legilimency. For one thing, it works over long
> distances and surmounts usually opaque barriers like the
> Hogwarts defenses.
>
> I note, in connection with this, that it's Lupin, much more than
> Sirius or Snape, who keeps pressing Harry to learn
> Occlumency. Does Ever So Evil Lupin want Harry to pursue
> Occlumency lessons because he's realized that they'll be
> self-defeating?
>
> Does any one else find it highly suspicious that Lupin fires not a
> single curse at any Death Eaters in the battle at the MoM? And
> when Lupin jumps between Lucius and Harry, Lucius doesn't
> curse Lupin instead. Why not?
>
> Snape could have killed Sirius in the Shrieking Shack. I think he
> would have liked to...I think he was hoping Sirius would attack
> him, but Snape won't kill in cold blood. In fact, we've never seen
> Snape use an offensive curse on anything except rose bushes,
> IIRC. Even when he duels Lockhart in CoS, he only uses
> Expelliarmus.
>
> Pippin
Excellent points against Snape being a triple agent! Well done.
A.G.
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