The Ultimate Betrayer

Susan Smith atroposgryffin at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 16 15:59:57 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 70886

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tracie" 
> <tracie622 at y...> wrote:
> > I have been going over all the threads and posts about Snape, 
> and 
> > thought I would add some.  First, I do not trust Snape.  I 
believe 
> > he will be the ultimate betrayer to the Order.  He was a Death 
> > Eater, and  yes, DD believes him to be reformed.  I don't..I 
think 
> > he is a spy...he is at Hogwarts with Harry and DD.  Wouldn't LV 
> want  someone inside Hogwarts to watch every move they both 
> make??  Who  better fits this but Snape?  
> 
> If Snape were in Voldemort's pocket, why would Voldemort have 
> needed to possess Quirrell? He could have sent Snape after the 
> Stone. Anyway, the place Voldemort really needs a spy is in the 
> Order, not Hogwarts. 
> 
> 
>  
> > Second, I do not believe that he was actually trying to teach 
> Harry Occlumency, I believe that he was using it as a means of 
> opening up  Harry's mind more to Voldemort's.  Making it easier 
> for LV to penetrate Harry's thoughts...in fact, this happens during 
> one such supposed Occlumency lesson...Harry goes down the 
> corridor.  Harry  himself keeps saying..."he's making it worse".<
> 
> What if Snape is teaching Occlumency properly, but  Harry's 
> positive emotions, what Dumbledore calls his "heart," were 
> keeping Voldemort out of Harry's mind all along, not just at the 
> end. By learning to suppress his emotions, Harry did  indeed 
> making himself weaker.  
> 
> Snape had no way to know this would happen. He says the link 
> between Harry and Voldemort doesn't follow the usual rules of 
> Occlumency/Legilimency. For one thing, it works over long 
> distances and surmounts usually opaque barriers like the 
> Hogwarts defenses. 
> 
> I note, in connection with this, that it's Lupin, much more than 
> Sirius or Snape,  who keeps pressing Harry to learn 
> Occlumency. Does Ever So Evil Lupin want Harry to pursue 
> Occlumency lessons because he's realized that they'll be 
> self-defeating?
> 
> Does any one else find it highly suspicious that Lupin  fires not a 
> single curse at any Death Eaters in the battle at the MoM?  And 
> when Lupin jumps between Lucius and Harry, Lucius doesn't 
> curse Lupin instead. Why not?
> 
> Snape  could have killed Sirius in the Shrieking Shack. I think he 
> would have liked to...I think he was hoping Sirius would attack 
> him, but Snape won't kill in cold blood. In fact, we've never seen 
> Snape use an offensive curse on anything except rose bushes, 
> IIRC. Even when he duels Lockhart in CoS, he only uses 
> Expelliarmus.
> 
> Pippin

Excellent points against Snape being a triple agent!  Well done.

A.G.





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