Prophecy/Trelawney/Voldemort/Worries about Books 6 and 7

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No: HPFGUIDX 70941

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Diana_Sirius_fan" 
<siriuslove71 at y...> wrote:
 
> For instance, I really want Harry to be the Heir of Gryffindor. I 
> believe he is and do not accept that Voldemort would waste his 
> precious time going after Harry because of some prediction an old 
> fraud made many years ago.  

Trelawney however is not an old fraud. Though she has prophetic 
powers hers isn't as strong as her ancestors.


This does not make sense. Why oh Why 
> would Dumbledore put so much weight in a prophecy?  Anyone can make 
a 
> prediction, but since they stick it in a bottle at the MOM it makes 
> it true?

Those prophecies in the MoM are true because they happened. Voldemort 
was indeed vanquished by a boy born in July whose parents thrice 
defied him and who would be marked by the Dark Lord.
> 
> I think that Trelawney could tell during her interview with 
> Dumbledore that he was not going to hire her. She needed something 
to 
> knock his socks off to get the job, so she made up the prediction. 
> Dumbledore has said before something to the effect that predicting 
> the future is tricky. (not sure his exact words) 

And it is tricky. Trelawney has only made TWO accurate prophecies 
during her time at Hogwarts. And if she could easily fool Dumbledore 
why couldn't she fool McGonagall and many of her own Divination 
students.

 So, I still do not 
> understand how he would believe this prediction and the WW would 
make 
> such a big deal about it. She could of said any month, lets just 
say 
> the person born at the end of the eighth month.  Then, there would 
be 
> some other child that Voldemort would be spending his life trying 
to 
> defeat.  

But that child wouldn't have helped vanquish Voldemort like what 
Harry did.

> 
> Before OOP came out there was a lot of excitement because we knew 
> Dumbledore was going to tell Harry everything.  So, this is it?  A 
> prediction by a woman who has not correctly guessed anything in the 
> last 16 years. (The GOF prediction was probably made up by her for 
> emphasis also.)

No it wasn't. Wormtail, the servant, did indeed escape from the 
mauraders and the trio and Voldemort did indeed rise again so her 
prophecy was indeed correct.

 I was dumbfounded when I read about the prophecy, and 
> not because I thought it was so great. I thought, no way. 
> 
> Now, if Harry was the Heir of Gryffindor it would make so much more 
> sense.  Of course, Voldie being the Heir of Salazar Slytherin would 
> want to defeat the only living Heir of his rival. I just can not 
> believe that Voldie would go after a kid because of a prediction.

Again it was a prophecy made by the descendent of a great oracle so 
he would take certain heed in it.

  
> Also, I do not believe that Harry being a baby could survive AK 
> because of a prediction. He needed to have Gryffindor blood (and 
> possibly Slytherin blood also) in him to live through a curse like 
> that.  A prophecy would not have saved him.  I keep calling it a 
> prediction because that is all it really is.  
> 

Harry didn't survive because of the prophecy, but because his mother 
sacrificed herself for him and as Dumbledore said that sacrifice and 
her love was the most basic form of magic which even Voldemort 
couldn't overpower.