Voldermort divided???

[kellymcj2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 71018

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "leb2323" <lbiles at f...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kattfirmin1" 

<kattfirmin at m wrote:
> > I don't have a theory, but a question, and I was wondering if
> anyone 
> > had a theory.  Right after Harry had the dream about Arthur 
getting 
> > attacked at by the snake, he was rushed to DD's office.  After 
> > telling DD the dream, DD grabbed a fragile silver instrument.  It 
> > puffed out smoke, which became a snake.  DD then 
said, "Naturally, 
> > naturally...But in essence divided?"  The smoke then became two 
> > snakes, and with a look of grim satisfatcion, but the instrument 
> > away.  Does anyone else have any idea what this is about?  (pg 
470 
> > US)

KelMc
Well, here is my idea though it isn't anywhere near as well thought 
out as leb's below.  I just have a general idea that when the curse 
didn't destroy baby Harry and rebounded on LV neither really came out 
of it whole.  Perhaps they are both now part of the same thing split 
between two bodies.  I guess that would mean they are one in the 
same, expressing the different parts of the whole thing (or essence 
or spirit or whatever it was) that really survived the encounter and 
was split between them.

I don't know if this can really fit in with the prophecy altogehter, 
but I think it may fit the line of neither living while the other 
survives.  If it is one person/spirit/thingy split between two bodies 
then neither of them can be whole without the other.  If only one 
half survives they're actually both dead because they need both to be 
whole, ie truly alive.  I guess I'm thnking ultimately they'll have 
to figure out how to merge into one thing/person/whatever and that'll 
be the end of it.  Maybe now with Harry's blood in LV (assuming 
that's what D-dore's triumphant look was about in GoF) it'll be 
easier for the two parts to become whole, and for the nice part of it 
(harry) to dominate.  I don't know for sure.  
Have to think about this some more.  Just a half formed idea at this 
point.  Anyhow, I wouldn't really want it to be the case, so I hope 
it's not true.  

 leb2323 said
> I think that the "in essence divided" quote refers to the manner in 
> which Voldemort was resurrected.  
some snipping here
> I believe to be more probable, 2) to resurrect he took
> "flesh of the servant" - a servant who just happens to have that
> pesky life debt to Harry, and "blood of the enemy" - the same blood 
> which is what saved Harry in the beginning and is what protects 
Harry 
> still at the Dursleys.  He is now divided in that he has the very 
> thing he is fighting against flowing through his own veins.  Kind 
of 
> like the 2 wands with same cores being unable to fight against each 
> other.
> 
> This is also why I think that Pettigrew is the "other" referred to 
in 
> the prophecy.  He will be the one to make the choice between 
whether 
> it is Voldemort, his master, or Harry, to whom he owes the life 
debt 
> that is to be destroyed with his magical new hand; thus, "either 
> must die at the hand of the other".
> 
> leb

KelMc again
I think that's a really unique idea.  Wouldn't it be incredible if it 
were the case?  It's a great way to incorporate the life debt, an 
idea which we all know must be significant or JKR wouldn't have  
mentioned it.