Fw: [HPforGrownups] OoP: A new(er) interpretation of the prophecy

[Koticzka]

No: HPFGUIDX 71142

> From: Florentine Maier
> >>I think the prophecy CAN'T mean what it seems to mean. Otherwise the
basic
> moral of the book would be "kill or be killed", and that wouldn't be
worthy
> of JKR.
> So I tried to find a different meaning, and I've come up with the
following:
> Let's have a look at the prophecy first:
> "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches ... born to
> those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies ... and
the
> Dark lord will mark him as equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord
knows
> not ... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live
> while the other survives ... the one with the power to vanquish the Dark
> Lord will be born as the seventh month dies ... "
> The last sentence appears to be just a repetition of what's been said
> before. But you could also read the last sentence another way:"the one
with
> the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month
dies"
> means: "the one with the power to prevent that the Dark Lord will be born
in
> the end of July".
> Therefore, time-turning will be required. Harry will go back into the
past
> and by making friends with Tom Riddle, he will prevent Riddle from turning
> into Lord Voldemort. The moment Harry turns the time-turner, Voldemort
"dies
> at Harrys hand", respectively will never be born.
>    That would also explain the strange deja-vu experience in CoS, where
> Harry feels as if he had known Tom Riddle before and as if he had been a
> friend of his.
>    And it would also explain why us muggles have no ideas what events in
our
> world would correspond to the first reign of Voldemort in the 1970s. (As
> opposed to the times of Grindelwald, which corrspond to world war II.) -
> Because it will never have happend!
>   Talking about narrative necessities, it would also explain why JKR has
> given Voldemort an "human" past, and why time-turning is introduced in
> PoA.<<
>
> *****Koticzka's comment:
> My new thought is that "The other" may mean the other boy born in July -
> read: NEVILLE. Neville as a tool of prophecy, Harry as the boy with a
power.
> So V. would be defeated (vanquished) and one of the boys is marked to
death.
> Harry will win by sacrifices are expected. - How about that?
>
> As far as 70-ies and 80-ies are considered, there were a couple of events
> though prettty far away of UK or USA, so some poeple might be not quite
> conscious of that - you would need to study modern history of Eastern and
> Central Europe, Pretty interesting stuff and most corresponding to events
in
> Harry-series. Lots of good samples including High Inquisitor's and Fudge's
> techniques, mass-media behaviour, DE's treatment after V's defeat and much
> more. Though, I do not suppose JKR studied that very precisly. And I
suppose
> there would be no Snape like this at all as they were particulary soft
with
> him not accusing him time after time never mind Dumbledore's confidednce
> certification nor guaranties.
>