First meetings HP/DM, JP/SS was Re: Always bothered me

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 71328


> 
>   
> Darrin -
>  
> "They're dead," said Harry shortly. He didn't feel much like going 
> into the matter with this boy.
>  
> "Oh, sorry," said the other, NOT SOUNDING SORRY AT ALL.
>  
> Harry thought Draco was insincere about his parents dying. If he 
> can't trust this kid on that, then I think he'd have reason to 
doubt 
> most of the other stuff as well. 
>  
> Me -
> 
> I don't see this as a sign of him being insincere. Most adults have 
trouble
> convincingly offering their condolences on the deaths of people 
they don't
> know, let alone 11 year old kids. Draco doesn't know these people 
and so he
> has trouble sounding convincingly sorry because he has no emotional
> investment in these people. Most *adults* would simply have felt 
awkward and
> tried to move the conversation on. draco is a child.
> Trust me on this. I have been somewhat in Harry's position and all a
> stranger is likely to feel is awkwardness not regret.
   

This is the quote from your post
> Me -
> 
> I don't think HGarry felt Draco was being insincere at all he just 
disagreed with him totally.

You said you didn't think Harry felt Draco was being insincere. I 
quoted canon that clearly said Harry felt Draco was saying something 
he didn't mean, which is insincere.

It doesn't matter what you or I think, or what adults and children 
normally say to someone who has lost a relative. 

Harry thought Draco was full of it.



> 
> Hagrid didn't say most dark witches and wizards were in Slytherin, 
he said all. I quoted him (admittedly I attributed it to Ron) and 
then said it was propoganda. Not all evil witches and wizards were 
Slytherin the person who handed Harry's parents over to Voldemort was 
>a Gryffindor. 


Answer me this. Did Harry know or not know that the being that killed 
his parents was a Slytherin? Did he not know that? I can quote the 
canon, if you wish.

He was told that. There is no bias there. There is no propaganda. The 
thing that made him an orphan and tried to kill him was a Slytherin. 

That is reason enough to stay the hell away.

The rest of what Hagrid said, and watching Draco get sorted there is 
just icing on the cake. 


>The gryffindors have a lovely habit of totally ignoring this little 
fact because it interferes with their world view. Most people try to 
alter their opinions to reflect the facts. Arrogant people try to ?
>alter the facts to reflect their opinion.

No one ever said all Gryffs are Good, a common mistake sometimes made 
in the "Slyths are Bad" argument. Of course, Pettigrew betrayed Lily 
and James and all indications are that he was a Gryffindor.

But how does that change that most of the DEs are Slyths and the 
leader was a Slyth? It doesn't. It also doesn't change that the 
founder of Slytherin house left because Hogwarts wouldn't bow to his 
discriminatory ideas.


Darrin
-- Common Mistakes, also a good band name.