[HPforGrownups] First meetings HP/DM, JP/SS was Re: Always bothered me

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No: HPFGUIDX 71367


On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 23:52 America/Indianapolis, 
darrin_burnett wrote:

>> Actually I don't think Harry's decision to be in Gryffindor has
>> much to do> with his attitudes or goals at all. he doesn't want to be
>> in Slytherin because the boy he's made friends with has told him
>> that "there's not a witch or wizard that went bad that wasn't in
>> Slytherin" (which as we all know is incorrect).
>
> Movie poisoning.

But you can't argue that the fact that the statement is incorrect is 
movie poisoning - Pettigrew doesn't even appear in either movie. And 
it's vicious lies in either case, at the time Hagrid believed Sirius 
Black (also presumably a Gryffindor) had gone bad. Unless you want to 
argue that MWPP were in Slytherin (which ruins the whole "no good 
slyths since Riddle" theory you seem to have - i think it's you anyway)

> In the book. Hagrid said it. After he told Harry that the piece of
> filth that killed his parents was a Slytherin. Maybe Harry has more
> reason that just "propaganda" to want to stay out of that house, hm?

Hagrid has already demonstrably lied about the absolute "fact" of all 
evil wizards being slytherin. We've no better evidence than his own 
claim that Riddle even _was_ in slytherin... How do we know Hagrid even 
has any inkling of Voldemort's true identity, anyway? He could have been

> For Harry to want to be in the House that produced the beast that
> killed his parents AND produced most of his followers is nothing
> short of a profanity against his parents' memory.

We have no reason to believe Hagrid is truthful about that. We also 
don't know which house James was in, the omission of him from JKR's 
claim that Lily is "naturally" a Gryffindor is suspicious, to say the 
least.

--Random832