[HPforGrownups] First meetings HP/DM, JP/SS was Re: Always bothered me

[Kathryn Cawte]

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 --Random832
Hagrid has already demonstrably lied about the absolute "fact" of all 
evil wizards being slytherin. We've no better evidence than his own 
claim that Riddle even _was_ in slytherin... How do we know Hagrid even 
has any inkling of Voldemort's true identity, anyway? He could have been
 
Me -

Goodness - that's a very good point that I must remember to include next
time this arguement comes up. Yes Dumbledore has said that not many people
know that Voldemort ad Riddle are one and the same so if they don't know who
Voldemort was when he was at school (explaining why they don't know that he
s not a pureblood) then how can they know he was a Slytherin. the fact that
he actually *was* is irrelevant - they are basing that assumption on no
actual evidence, just blind prejudice. And before someone tries arguing that
the fact they are correct doesn't have bearing on it look at it this way -
if someone breaks into my car and I don't see them but tell the police he
was black because I believe that all thieves are black men and then the
thief is caught and he actually turns out to be black that doesn't make my
assumption less racist, it just means that I happened to get lucky and be
coincidentally correct. Hagrid after all has good reason to be biased when
talking about Slytherins - one was responsible for his expulsion. We need to
examine how reliable our source is and in this case I'm afraid he really isn
t.

 --Random832
We have no reason to believe Hagrid is truthful about that. We also 
don't know which house James was in, the omission of him from JKR's 
claim that Lily is "naturally" a Gryffindor is suspicious, to say the 
least.
 
Me -

I think Harry's comment in OoP about Ron looking like 'another Gryffindor
Quidditch player' is reasonable evidence to support that James was a
gryffindor but I admit we don't know how he comes to that conclusion.

K