Snape's bloody, violent death

tigerpatronus tigerpatronus at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 19 23:10:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 71712

> --- "oh have faith" <rshuson80 at y...> wrote:
> > Does anyone else think Snape may be inadvertantly predicting his 
> own > > downfall and/or bloody violent death, when he does his rant 
in the > > Occlumency chapter of OOP?
> > > > "Fools who wear hearts proudly on their sleeves, who cannot 
control > > their emotions, who wallow in sad memories and allow 
themselves to > > be so easily provoked - weak people, in other 
words - they stand no > > chance against his powers!" (p473 in my ed)
("Hello, Pot?  This is the kettle.  You're black!")
> > <snip>
> > Any thoughts?
> > Faith's Girl

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snazzzybird" 
<carmenharms at y...> wrote: <Some Nice, Interesting Prose = SNIP!> 
> Is Snape also exhibiting a spectacular blind spot regarding his own 
> vulnerability?  Possibly.  I don't really see him as wearing his 
> heart on his sleeve, and he seems able to control his emotions 
pretty > well in most instances.  The only exception is where Harry 
is > concerned.  Perhaps he thinks that doesn't count; that his 
dislike of > Harry isn't likely to make him vulnerable to Voldemort.  
Or perhaps > he really doesn't see that he's wallowing in sad 
memories when he > nurses the old grudge against James Potter, and 
that this causes him > to be easily provoked by real and imagined 
slights by James' son.
> --snazzzybird

I was surprised to hear DD extol Snape's abilities as an Occlumens 
(sp?) because Snape, IMHO, does allow his emotions to control him all 
the time. I thought he was refering to himself when he talked about 
the Dark Lord snapping emotional people in halves, perhaps from 
experience. He's so emotional, sometimes I think he's not British, 
perhaps a bloody American git. (No flames, please. I'm a Yank. Just 
being funny-ish.) 

A few examples:

PoA, US TPB, p419-20: Snape throws a hissy fit. 
(Sirius escaped on Buckbeak w help from HP,HG and the Time Turner) 
"HE DIDN'T DISAPPARATE!" Snape roared, ... Fudge appeared angry. But 
Snape was beside himself. 
"Professor Snape!" shrieked Madam Pompfroy. "Control yourself!" 
"See here, Snape, be reasonable," said Fudge....
"THEY HELPED HIM ESCAPE, I KNOW IT!" Snape howled, pointing at Harry 
and Hermione. His face was twisted; spit was flying from his mouth. 
"Calm down, man!" Fudge barked. "You're talking nonsense!" 
...Snape stood there, seething, staring at Fudge, who looked 
thoroughly shocked at his behavior, to DD.... Snape whirled about, 
robes swishing behind him, and stormed out of the ward. 
"Fellow seems quite unbalanced," said Fudge, staring after him. "I'd 
watch out for him if I were you, Dumbledore." 

SS, US TPB, p126: Snape's expression of hate when he sees HP across 
the room. 
(The first time HP sees Snape)
The hook-nosed teacher [Snape] looked past Quirrel's turban straight 
into Harry's eyes --- and a sharp, hot pain shot across the scar on 
Harry's forehead. ...Harder to shake off was the feeling Harry had 
gotten from the teacher's look --- a feeling that he didn't like 
Harry at all. 

(Note: Also an interesting juxtaposition of LV under the turban and 
Snape, and the pain in the scar. Perhaps the first example of the 
divided essence, using his old DE Snape as a conduit?) 

OotP, US HB, Ch 24, Occlumency, p537: Snape is nuts the whole time, 
just as nuts as the 15-yr-old, puberty-addled HP:
"*I have told you not to say the Dark Lord's name!*" 
They glared at each other. Harry's scar seared again, but he did not 
care. Snape looked agitated. When he spoke again he sounded as though 
he was trying to appear cool and unconcerned. 

OotP, US HB, Ch 28, Snape's Worst Memory, p649-650:Snape goes postal 
after wallowing in sad memories. 
It was scary: Snape's lips were shaking, his face was white, his 
teeth were bared. ...[S]haking Harry so hard that his glasses slipped 
down his nose.
"I --- didn't ---" 
Snape threw Harry from him with all his might. Harry fell hard on the 
dungeon floor. 

Actual assault, there. 

OotP, US HB, p521: Snape is provoked into a duel. 
...Sirius and Snape looking toward the door with their wands pointing 
into each other's faces and Harry immobile between them, a hand 
stretched out to each of them, trying to force them apart.

What's more, his statement about wallowing in bad memories, his 
reaction to HP in the Penseive, and the near-duel entirely correlate 
to his dire prediction/memory. It sounds like Snape still loves LV in 
a man way (see the Snape-is-gay thread.)  Maybe DD trusts Snape 
because Snape *wants* to go back to LV but *can't.* If he *can't*, 
you know he's no threat. Maybe Snape's worst memory is that he's too 
weak to go back to LV. 

TK -- TigerPatronus
















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