Sirius and Molly...

[Dan Feeney]

No: HPFGUIDX 71790

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat2001" <Zarleycat at a...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" 
<kcawte at b...> 
> > wrote:
> > >  
> > >  Molly's fears, as shown by the boggart, focus on losing her 
kids 
> > (amongst
> > > whom I'm sure she includes Harry) not exactly helped by Percy's 
> > behaviour
> > > (please JKR if you're listening either have him turn out to be 
a 
> > spy for OoP
> > > or have Bill and Charlie go and smack some sense into  him and 
> > drag him home
> > > by the scruff of the neck).
> > > 
> > > While Sirius isn't (in my opinion) a real danger to Harry per 
se 
> > he is a
> > > threat to Molly. She could easily lose harry to Sirius and I 
> think 
> > that she
> > > subconsciously blames Sirius for coming back and threatening 
her 
> > role in his
> > > life. I don't think she actually means to take it out on him so 
> > much as she
> > > does but she's worried and he's there, an easy target. She 
can't 
> > do anything
> > > about any of her other fears but him she can pick on.
> > > 
> > > K
> > 
> > Your first paragraph I agree with completely (nice thought about 
> > Bill and Charlie and Percy, too).  I have a different idea about 
> > what makes Molly afraid of Sirius' relationship to Harry.
> > 
> > I think Molly is afraid of losing any of her family, including 
> > Harry, to *Voldomort*.  Although she can try to do something to 
> keep 
> > the youngest Weasleys out of the fight, she is desperate to stop 
> > Sirius from involving Harry in it.  
> 
> Well, then it will be very interesting to see how she interacts 
with 
> Dumbledore, now that he has told Harry a great deal about Harry's 
> involvement and perhaps ultimate challenge in dealing with 
> Voldemort.  Whatever information Molly was desperate to keep from 
> Harry at the beginning of OoP has been pretty much tossed out the 
> window.  Harry may very well know more than Molly does at this 
> point.  How will this affect the dynamic between the two of them?
> 
> Marianne

Just curious, what about my idea that Molly harbours guilt for the 
jeopardy in which she has placed her family, and feels shame for this 
tiny shred of guilt, by previously associating with HP, and now being 
part of his so-called high security team? It did seem to make her 
weaken at the boggart, that and the fact that they have left The 
Burrow (they are not burrowed in anymore, the family is breaking up, 
they fear, because of Percy, whose feelings will already be known to 
his parents, long before Ron gets his letter.) Am I completely off 
here? Did Molly act to HP in relation to her own offspring the same 
way she acted in relation before? I mean, she never quite doted, or 
did so only briefly, but in OOP, I detected differences. Details 
later.

If what the fiery head of Sirius says is true (and he is being quite 
fair in letting them know Molly's feelings, isn't he?) she opposes 
Harry directly for the first time, and Hermione a second time ever, 
over the DA, though, if Black is to be believed, she phrases it 
pretty carefully - as if she were very much NOT HP's guardian, or 
Hermione's. (Though, to be fair, she is in practise guardian, at HQ 
anyway.) Now, unless we accept the list argument that HP is an 
arrogant, ignorant and interfering simp who creates chaos and danger 
under some ethical guise, this opposition to the DA can only been 
seen as not wanting to bring the apparently not yet hopeless struggle 
between OOP and MoM to the surface, at such a time as it would 
strengthen the so-called real enemy, LV and the DE. And indeed, 
DUmbridge is a loose cannon in MoM, we are lead to believe anyway, 
what with sending dementors and torturing students. OOP doesn't know, 
apparently, anyway, so they can, to the kids, reasonably talk as if 
it's not hopeless yet, or rather, as if stating it directly isn't 
necessary. But OOP, by secretly opposing MoM's policies, acts as if 
it WERE hopeless. Molly, therefor, is expressing these 
contradictions, whereas Black is not. Black is, at least, being 
somewhat fair, in the bigger sense.

Don't get me wrong, I don't view Molly's uncertainty, or is it 
ambiguity, or second-guessing, as terrible. It is, however, perhaps 
closer to a flaw than I originally thought, reading this thread. That 
she doesn't fight her natural response to protecting HP is what 
allows that flaw to be her humanity. And besides, OOP's obeisance to 
AD's wishes rings just a little too much like LV and the DEs. But I 
guess that's all over now - no more hiding behind the desire to 
protect the children. Whatever's coming, it's coming fast, and I 
expect more than a few character flaws will be drawn to our attention 
in rather garish light.

On another note, if we are to see all our fav characters flaws in the 
story, what would Snape's be? Or is he, rather, mostly flaw, with one 
really really good quality?