New Angle on the prophecy Neville and Harry.

[lupinwolf2001]

No: HPFGUIDX 72071

I was thinking about an angle on the prophecy that has been left 
unexplored (at least as far as I know and apoligize if others have 
already posted this) that could give some proof to the argument that 
the prophecy pertains to Neville instead of Harry.

Many (Dumbledore included) have concluded that Harry is the chosen 
one becuase of the scar on his head (which defeated Voldemort 
initially) and thus Voldemort CHOSE Harry as his equal.

The Phrophecy (again) for those who don't want to have to check the 
book to make sure my reasoning follows the text:

`The one with the power to vanquish th'e- Dark Lord approaches
 born 
to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies 
 
and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will havc
power the Dark Lord knows not 
 and either must die at the hand of 
the other for neither can live while the other survives 
 the one 
with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh 
month dies"

I submit that Voldemort's mistake/Harry's scar doesn't necessarily 
mean that the choice has been made YET!

When looking at the prophecy, it is important to note this line: 'and 
the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will havc
power the Dark Lord knows not'

Now, this does not say WHEN the dark lord would mark him as an equal. 
It does not say that the curse/scar he laid on Harry WAS the mark 
fortold. Neville could VERY well be marked LATER by voldemort (maybe 
intentionally). 

Harry states that: "`Then - it might not be me?"

Dumbledore (operating on the assumption that Harry's scar is the mark 
that makes him an equal) tells him: 
'He heard only the beginning, the part foretelling the birth of a boy 
in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort. Consequently, he 
could not warn his master that to attack you would be to risk 
transferring power to you, and marking you as his equal. So Voldemort 
never knew that there might be danger in attacking you, that it might 
be wise to wait, to learn more. He did not know that you would have 
power the Dark Lord knows not"

Now, my theroy would suggest that Voldemort DID seek to kill both 
children but went to the Potters first to kill their child (as the 
Longbottom's secret keeper was not available yet). It is VERY MUCH 
possible that a great witch (and unspeakable) like Lilly Potter DID 
find a way to stop (deflect) the Avada Kadarva yet that has NOTHING 
to do with the phrophecy. Afterall, Voldemort is back! Harry did NOT 
finish Voldemort off! 

It is ENTIRELY possible that the "marking" has not yet happened. It 
is possible that now that Harry knows the truth, that Voldemort has 
access to that knowledge now and could theoretically CHOOSE Neville 
(seeing him as a weaker lame duck than Harry) in order to vanquish 
the foe from the prophecy.

Dumbledore goes on to reason: 'He saw himself in you before he had 
ever seen you, and in marking you with that scar, he did not kill 
you, as he intended, but gave you powers, and a future, which have 
fitted you to escape him not once, but four times so far - something 
that neither your parents, nor Neville's parents, ever achieved.'

But escaping him 4 times isn't part of the prophecy yet AD uses it as 
rationale to prove his point that Harry is the one. Yet the Prophecy 
doesn't say anything about escaping him 4 times (or more than his 
parents). In fact, the prophecy seems to mention that he will have 
the power to vanquish the other. Yet voldemort hasn't had the power 
to vanquish Harry and Harry hasn't YET been able to vanquish 
Voldemort. So what gives?

Voldemort has NEVER tried to vanquish Neville, Neville has never 
tried to vanquish Voldemort. All we know, is that Voldemort (not yet 
anyways) hasn't marked Neville as his equal. Or maybe, just maybe... 
By giving Harry the scar, He marked Neville as the chosen one 
indirectly. Maybe Harry's scar is JUST THAT, a Scar. 

Dumbldore goes on to rationalize Voldemort's choice to attack Harry 
as an infant with the following: 'Voldemort never knew that there 
might be danger in attacking you, that it might be wise to wait, to 
learn more. He did not know that you would have power the Dark Lord 
knows not'

In essence, the prophecy and the scar don't provide answers, only 
MORE possibilities and MORE questions. It is entirely possible that 
Harry DOESN'T have to kill or be killed. It is entirely that Harry 
hasn't made the choices he has or survived off of a prophecy or a 
scripted outcome... but rather off sheer nerve and heart. THAT would 
reinforce the thinking of choices made rather than destiny that 
Rowling seems to stress. 

And the thoughts that maybe NEITHER can survive while the other lives 
gives us the reality that Harry WILL live... But Neville and 
Voldemort (true to the prophecy) will not as Neville sacrifices 
himself in the interest of vanquishing Voldemort.