Evans family

lorien_eve natmichaels at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 24 04:07:24 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72720

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Allison Hill" 
<octaviaempressofmars at h...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm new and this is kind of long, though I've tried to be 
methodical, so 
> please bear with me.
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has given any thought to the idea that 
Lily Evans 
> is the one that came from the magical family, not James Potter.  
It seems to 
> me that we're being misdirected because Petunia is vehemently 
against the 
> wizarding world and therefore the assumption is made that her 
family is not 
> from it.
> 
> I just skimmed through SS to find refutation of my theory but have 
not 
> gotten to the rest of the books yet.  Now, I have found 3 key 
mentions of 
> the Evanses.  The first was during Petunia's tirade in the house 
on the rock 
> in the sea when Hagrid arrives.  She mentions that her 
parents "were proud 
> of having a witch in the family!"  But there's nothing clearly 
stating that 
> they themselves weren't ones as well.  The second time is when 
Hagrid is 
> talking to Harry about new students from Muggle families doing 
just as well 
> as new kids from magical families.  He mentions Lily, "Look what 
she had fer 
> a sister!"  He's clearly talking about Petunia as Lily's sister 
and not 
> Petunia as Harry's aunt.  Why would Hagrid have met some random 
student's 
> Muggle sister?
> 
> The third mention is at the Mirror of Erised.  Harry "saw other 
pairs of 
> green eyes like his."  Remember, he looks like his dad with his 
mother's 
> eyes.  Would non-magical family members, dead or alive, show up in 
a magical 
> devise like the mirror?
> 
> The idea that the Evanses are the magical family bolsters several 
other 
> delicious theories I've encountered.  If young Mark Evans is from 
the 
> magical side of the family, that would explain why Harry doesn't 
know of the 
> shirt-tail relation, because Petunia certainly wouldn't keep in 
touch with 
> Those People.  There's also the idea of Severus Snape being an 
anagram for 
> his real name, Perseus Evans.  (See 
> http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/gryffindortower/gt10.shtml for 
an 
> excellent synopsis of this theory.)  It certainly is less far 
fetched if the 
> Evans family is the magical one.  And it could mean that Snape 
is "that 
> awful boy" Petunia overhears talking about Azkaban, since James 
would have 
> been a young man by the time he and Lily started dating and he and 
Petunia 
> may have met.
> 
> Have we ever been told explicitly anything about James' family?  
There is 
> yet another great theory about Albus Dumbledore being Harry's 
> great-grandfather.  (See Who are Harry's family at 
> http://www.hp-lexicon.org/puzzles.html for the redhead connection 
suggesting 
> he's Lily's grandfather behind this one.)  He could only be the 
maternal 
> grandfather of either James or Lily in order for the last name to 
not have 
> been passed on.  If Lily's mother is a squib who married a wizard, 
and 
> there's certainly proof of squibs--Figgy!--living amongst Muggles, 
that 
> would help to explain Dumbledore's compassion for the 
miscellaneous motley 
> characters he collects at Hogwarts.
> 
> Anyway, there it is.  We've all been assuming that Lily is the 
muggle-born 
> and James is the pureblood wizard based on Petunia not being a 
witch.  But 
> we also all know that Rowling tosses in red herrings.  Let me know 
what you 
> think or if you can find any more evidence for or against.
> 
> Until later,
> Belsum
> 

It seems like you've put in a good bit of time and research in your 
post, and I hate to just shoot your idea down. We're on this list to 
come up with new ideas and theories, after all! But it states 
numerous time in canon that Lily is muggle-born. Sorry, I don't have 
any direct quotes or page numbers--I just know that it was said 
several times. I do like your idea, however, that Hagrid seemed to 
know at least *something* about Petunia. Dumbledore could've told 
him things about her, but still...it's something to think about.

Lorien_Eve
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