I *HATE* Hagrid! (kinda long)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Jul 25 16:43:29 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 73097

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, SnapesSlytherin at a... 
wrote:
(an I hate Hagrid tirade)

It's interesting that you compare Snape and Hagrid, because the 
way I see it, Hagrid is the anti-Snape. Snape is a  master of 
classroom management but has complete  lack of rapport with 
his students (except Slytherins), and Hagrid is a doofus at 
classroom management but has excellent rapport (except for 
Slytherins). It's just JKR's way of showing us what happens 
when one of the elements that makes a great teacher is 
missing. The whole point is that classroom management isn't 
everything, and neither is rapport.

> 3. Aragog.  He sent two twelve year olds after an Acromantula?  
Um...*really*  bad idea.  They're five star dangerous creatures.  
Hagrid should know better.<

Hagrid was about to be sent to Azkaban for a crime he didn't 
commit.  Aragog was his only hope of establishing his 
innocence *and* protecting the school from who ever was really 
opening the Chamber.  Harry was the only one he had a chance 
to tell. I'd  cut Hagrid some slack on this one. 

> 6. Blast Ended Skrewts.  Um...Ministry Laws anyone?  Those 
were *really*  dangerous creatures!  Kids got singed and burned 
because of them.  *BAD* idea.

As the skrewts were bred for the maze which was supervised by 
Dept of Magical Games and Sports, Hagrid must have had 
approval for them. Apparently illegal breeding is an all too 
common pastime among wizards--there's mention of  extremely 
odd ferrets in CoS, unnatural charms on a goat in GoF, and that 
non-standard chicken in OOP. Hagrid's classes  had a chance to 
deal with the results under supervised conditions. I am sure they 
will now all think twice about trying it for themselves.

CoMC is an elective, but we don't hear about anybody dropping 
out of the class. Burns and scrapes are probably par for the 
course, just as real life veterinarians and others who work with 
animals are at high risk of bites, scratches, infections, needle 
sticks and other accidental injuries.

> 7. GWARP!  As proved by Hagrid's injuries, giants are 
dangerous - at least,  until they're ... "taught" like Hagrid was 
teaching Gwarp.  Can you imagine  what will happen if some 
poor student goes into the forest and meets a giant?  I  don't 
think they'll be getting out unscathed.

This one's really weak. The Forest is *off limits* to students for 
good reason. The Forest has already got a colony of 
acromantulas, Fluffy (per JKR interview), hostile Centaurs, and 
werewolves in it. One semi-civilized giant isn't going to make 
much difference.  Harry is, as I've pointed out before, a special 
case. He is a prodigy when it comes to interestin' creatures; 
really there's no reason to think he wouldn't be as safe in the 
Forest as he is anywhere else.

> 8. Asking HRH to help with Gwarp.  It's bad enough he has 
giant in the  forest, but to ask his students to care for it?  That's 
dangerous.  Hermione, at  least, was obviously afraid of Gwarp 
yet they have to watch him anyone.  Because Hagrid made them 
promise before he told them what they had to do...which could  
be its own number now that I think of it.<

Grawp didn't need taking care of, he needed company. And 
Hagrid didn't *make* them promise at all. He only asked if they 
would help him, and Harry immediately said yes, then had too 
much pride to take it back.   To quote the mom in me, if your 
favorite grown-up asked you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?

Pippin





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