CoS vs OotP comparisons and JKR hints at secret
Risti
pretty_feet51 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 28 04:53:09 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 73576
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ereturtle18" > ereturtle18:
I wouldn't
> consider this important, but it might be a parallel between CoS
and
> OoP. These are the parallels I've come up with so far:
>
> 1. In both books, the majority of the students think Harry is a
> possibly dangerous lunatic. They drive Harry crazy for most of the
> book, then, at the end, Harry battles Lord Thingy, and he's a hero
> again. Also, Ginny happens to be present during both battles.
>
> 2. Harry thinks he's going crazy because he hears/sees things that
> no one else can (CoS: hears a voice in the walls OoP: sees
> Voldemort's actions through dreams) and at about 2/3 of the way
> through the book finds out why. At some point in each book, he
uses
> his "special power" to save the life of a Weasley.
>
> 3. Voldemort brainwashes somebody and uses them to carry out his
> plans.
>
> 4. Harry goes to the final battle with the intention of rescuing
> someone he thinks was kidnapped by Voldemort. He then ends up
> needing rescue himself.
>
> I'm not really sure what this means, maybe it's too vague to mean
> anything, but if anyone figures it out, PLEASE post!!
>
Well, I don't know if this would help to figure anything out, but
these parallels, which I hadn't noticed, reminded me of some other
parallels between CoS and OotP that had been on my mind.
First of all, to quote from the chapter commentary I made during my
third read through(ch 3)
It's interesting how many simularities this summer at home has to
the one in CoS. Harry's feeling like his friends have abandonned
him. The Ministry is threatenning to expel him. Dobby was the
first bit of magic Harry saw cross over to hsi muggle life, now
there's more. Right down to being fed through the cat trap. And
Harry is about to be rescued in an unexpected, airborne manner.
Beyond this, the obvious parallel is in Dumbledore. Again, part way
through the book, Dumbledore is forced to leave Hogwarts, and Harry
is left to face Hogwarts without him.
Another thing that is interesting is that both books show the
formation of a defense league. In CoS, the Dueling Club, in OotP,
DA.
These two books probably also show the most interaction between the
trio and students outside of the trio. CoS is where Colin Creevey
saw most of his action, and is where we were introduced to many
students from other houses who we didn't really see again until OotP.
Lockhart, also, made an appearance in OotP after being in CoS.
Incidently, while 'cleaning', Mrs. Weasley brought out his Household
Pest book again in OotP, just as she did in CoS.
I'm sure if someone else put there mind to it, even more comparisons
could be found.
There are a few things that could be brought up when comparing these
two. First of all, I believe JKR referred to GoF in many ways as
being a 'beginning'. OotP, then, like CoS was to PS, is the book
after the 'beginning'. It's interesting that CoS is many people's
least favorite book, and OotP also seems to be getting alot of
negative feedback. I believe JKR also refered to CoS as setting up
alot for future plot points, as she has for OotP again. I think
these two could be related. The fans(in particular one captain)
love to see a good bang in the plot. Set up for future books is not
that bangy.
Finally, however, I'd like to point out one final simularity that
could be the very thing JKR was referring to in that interview, and
is something I was talking about before OotP came out:The Pheonix.
CoS is where we were introduced to Fawkes, and Pheonixes, and all of
their capabilities. My prediction pre OotP was that the name, the
Order of the Pheonix, had something to do with the loyalty of these
birds, and the Order remaining loyal. This still could be the
case. No matter what, I believe that we haven't seen the last of
Fawkes and other Pheonixes. They are the representation of Life
Reborn, which is clearly shaping out to be a major theme within the
series.
~Risti, who will end that now, and save a structure of the series
and overall post on the theme of life reborn for another night.
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