CoS vs OotP comparisons and JKR hints at secret

Risti pretty_feet51 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 28 04:53:09 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 73576

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ereturtle18" > ereturtle18:
I wouldn't 
> consider this important, but it might be a parallel between CoS 
and 
> OoP. These are the parallels I've come up with so far:
> 
> 1. In both books, the majority of the students think Harry is a 
> possibly dangerous lunatic. They drive Harry crazy for most of the 
> book, then, at the end, Harry battles Lord Thingy, and he's a hero 
> again. Also, Ginny happens to be present during both battles.
> 
> 2. Harry thinks he's going crazy because he hears/sees things that 
> no one else can (CoS: hears a voice in the walls OoP: sees 
> Voldemort's actions through dreams) and at about 2/3 of the way 
> through the book finds out why. At some point in each book, he 
uses 
> his "special power" to save the life of a Weasley.
> 
> 3. Voldemort brainwashes somebody and uses them to carry out his 
> plans.
> 
> 4. Harry goes to the final battle with the intention of rescuing 
> someone he thinks was kidnapped by Voldemort. He then ends up 
> needing rescue himself.
> 
> I'm not really sure what this means, maybe it's too vague to mean 
> anything, but if anyone figures it out, PLEASE post!!
> 

Well, I don't know if this would help to figure anything out, but 
these parallels, which I hadn't noticed, reminded me of some other 
parallels between CoS and OotP that had been on my mind.

First of all, to quote from the chapter commentary I made during my 
third read through(ch 3)

It's interesting how many simularities this summer at home has to 
the one in CoS.  Harry's feeling like his friends have abandonned 
him.  The Ministry is threatenning to expel him.  Dobby was the 
first bit of magic Harry saw cross over to hsi muggle life, now 
there's more.  Right down to being fed through the cat trap.  And 
Harry is about to be rescued in an unexpected, airborne manner.

Beyond this, the obvious parallel is in Dumbledore.  Again, part way 
through the book, Dumbledore is forced to leave Hogwarts, and Harry 
is left to face Hogwarts without him.

Another thing that is interesting is that both books show the 
formation of a defense league.  In CoS, the Dueling Club, in OotP, 
DA.

These two books probably also show the most interaction between the 
trio and students outside of the trio.  CoS is where Colin Creevey 
saw most of his action, and is where we were introduced to many 
students from other houses who we didn't really see again until OotP.

Lockhart, also, made an appearance in OotP after being in CoS.  
Incidently, while 'cleaning', Mrs. Weasley brought out his Household 
Pest book again in OotP, just as she did in CoS.

I'm sure if someone else put there mind to it, even more comparisons 
could be found.

There are a few things that could be brought up when comparing these 
two.  First of all, I believe JKR referred to GoF in many ways as 
being a 'beginning'.  OotP, then, like CoS was to PS, is the book 
after the 'beginning'.  It's interesting that CoS is many people's 
least favorite book, and OotP also seems to be getting alot of 
negative feedback.  I believe JKR also refered to CoS as setting up 
alot for future plot points, as she has for OotP again.  I think 
these two could be related.  The fans(in particular one captain) 
love to see a good bang in the plot.  Set up for future books is not 
that bangy.

Finally, however, I'd like to point out one final simularity that 
could be the very thing JKR was referring to in that interview, and 
is something I was talking about before OotP came out:The Pheonix.  
CoS is where we were introduced to Fawkes, and Pheonixes, and all of 
their capabilities.  My prediction pre OotP was that the name, the 
Order of the Pheonix, had something to do with the loyalty of these 
birds, and the Order remaining loyal.  This still could be the 
case.  No matter what, I believe that we haven't seen the last of 
Fawkes and other Pheonixes.  They are the representation of Life 
Reborn, which is clearly shaping out to be a major theme within the 
series.

~Risti, who will end that now, and save a structure of the series 
and overall post on the theme of life reborn for another night.





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