[HPforGrownups] Re: JKR hints at secret

[Random]

No: HPFGUIDX 74105


On Tuesday, Jul 29, 2003, at 14:14 America/Indianapolis, Charlie Moody 
wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 01:35  PM, jakedjensen wrote:
>
>> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Random <random832 at r...> wrote:
>>> I was led to think the group _does_ exclude all such posts, as 
>>> there's another group for those. just like it excludes off-topic 
>>> chatter, which this is rapidly becoming.
>>
>> First, this discussion is about understanding the secrets in the 
>> books by using the movies (i.e., it is about understanding the 
>> books).  How is it off-topic chatter?

I missed the message this was said in, so i'll reply here. I was 
referring to the meta-discussion on whether the original topic belonged 
on the hpfgu-movies list, as being off-topic.

>> IMHO, the entire discussion has been very focused and constructive.  
>> Indeed, the only real off-topic matter in the conversation is this 
>> discussion of whether or not the discussion should take place on this 
>> board or another?

*smacks forehead* that's EXACTLY what _I_ said!

>> This seems to be a very minor issue (nay, a technicality) cramping an 
>> enjoyable thread.

[i agree with all that i snipped]

> The reason we're currently flirting w/ this issue is because we know 
> that JKR has 'tweaked' the films by providing guidance to the actors 
> to help them nuance their performances - with the result that certain 
> elements of the films clarify the text (ie, Hagrid's dissembling when 
> confronted about HIS presence in Knockturn Alley comes thru much more 
> clearly on the screen).   Discussion of these things is (IMHO) 
> reasonable & acceptable here because it is about the books - 
> specifically about how to interpret events & motives & directions 
> within the canon.

but the list policy isn't BECAUSE "it's not canon"... the list policy 
simple _is_. it's a way to divide the two lists' overlapping material 
using the simplest possible test. allow me to quote:

Is your message...
Movie-related? Book-movie comparison? Send it to HPFGU-Movie.
Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups.

this thread quite clearly falls into the former category.

> So, if we can agree that in some cases subtleties from the films can 
> illuminate a character's mood or feeling or response, and that it's OK 
> to incorporate such observations into conversations without yanking 
> those threads onto a new movie-oriented track, then I think we all > win.

this thread is quite clearly dependent on the movies, and the rule, 
regardless of whether i may or may not agree with it, is THERE.

--Random832

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