Umbridge

[susanbones2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 74251

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Sydney Parker 
> <smoothskier at y...> wrote:
> > She is one on my most favorite characters in the book.
> >  Beautifully written and a character you LOVE to hate.
> >  However, she makes is quite known that she is a
> > supporter of Fudge and his ways, so unless Fudge
> > follows Voldemort, I don't possibly see how Umbridge
> > can be seen as a supporter of Voldemort and not the
> > ministry.  The things she does to Harry in book is to
> > undermine him and pull support for the MOm.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Me:
> 
> She may be beautifully written and she may do things to Harry to 
> undermine him but the fact she is a sadistic and vicious woman who 
> should never have reached the position she is in; it is presumbaly 
> only because Fudge is a weak character that she has. To actually 
set 
> Dementors on Harry knowing the likely outcome and to attempt to use 
> an unforgiveable curse - anticipating that it would not come to 
> light - is a sign of someone totally and utterly depraved.
> 
> This is why I hate her more than anyone else I have met in the 
books. 
> I thought I was doing well with the Malfoys but I just hope that a 
> nice sticky end is in sight for the good lady.
> 
> There are obviously parallels in the real world, typically in the 
> Nazi regime and other modern dictatorships where the bully gets 
away 
> with things being surrounded by cronies.
> 
> Geoff
 Okay, Geoff, since you brought up her many unattractive qualities, 
and since I can't remember reading this (things have slowed down but 
not that much) tell me what to make of Harry's scar hurting and his 
stomach doing that funny turn when Umbridge took his hand in 
detentions. The evil smile she gave him was to be expected but it 
went nicely with the other two (she seemed to have a distinct LV 
effect upon the boy). I am rereading and I confess, I read so quickly 
that I can't remember if there was ever anything made of this beyond 
Sirius's appearance in the fire, which pretty much was a "don't worry 
about it" kind of talk.
I think this is one of the major ways JKR both gives you a huge clue 
and then throws you off the trail. Face it, the adults in Harry's 
life haven't been all that hot at understanding the big things when 
they come around. So, please, if someone knows a post where this was 
discussed, analyzed, torn apart and put back together, tell me. 
Jennifer