CANON FODDER re Harry, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Ginny, Neville

[samnanya]

No: HPFGUIDX 74281

I love SHIP debates. However, some posters seem to be pontificating 
on conjectured SHIP as if their and ONLY their SHIPS are plausible if 
the Harry Potter story be properly told.

If there is one thing that JKR made sure of in writing this series it 
is that NO ONE  - be they reader or character {neither Trelawney, 
Firenze, nor even Dumbledore} can predict the future with 100% 
certainty. There are lots of juicy hints scattered everywhere in the 
first five books, and some may matter and some may not. 

I don't believe that what passes for interpretative "canon" should be 
used by anyone to shoot down the SHIPs proposed by other posters to 
this site - unless there is an OBVIOUS and WRITTEN error or omission 
(say .. Ron is attracted to Hermione's straight black hair and 
dottiness). 

I can easily develop arguments "from canon" to suppory any 
Male/Female SHIP combination of the above 6 characters {except 
Ron/Ginny}. What is even more interesting is that I would be 
satisfied by any combination of them if supported by JKR's writing 
skill and awesome plotting ability. The endless character development 
and plotting possibilities are ultimately what make her books so 
satisfying and absorbing. 

The SHIP of Harry/Hermione is just as valid as Harry/Ginny or 
Ron/Hermione Neville/Hermione or Neville/Ginny  Ron/Luna  
Neville/Luna or  {yes .... even} Harry/Luna (which I happen to 
favor) - and I {or better yet of course, JKR} can easily develop an 
EXTREMELY convincing  story line supported by "canon" how any of 
these SHIPs can happen and even be DESTINED to happen !

So please !  Give JKR some credit in crafting a tale where virtually 
everything is possible and let your fellow SHIPpers have some fun 
without pontificating about what YOU think has to happen and shooting 
down the theories of your fellow posters. Their opinions are just as 
valid as yours or mine!

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Some examples - 

SUPPOSITION 1
It's quite clear to me that Hermione has already set her sights on 
Harry - he will have to betray / deeply disappoint / greatly offend 
her (maybe all three) in order to drive her away.

RESPONSE 1
May I ask why? Are there any proofs for that in canon.

SAMs RESPONSE 1
No more proof than any other SHIP possibility. As a matter of fact, 
there are more "proofs" of the H/H SHIP supposition than any other 
SHIP. 


SUPPOSITION 2
For his part, Hermione will be the only one on his screens as he 
grows up. He knows her, likes her, admires her, respects her, trusts 
her absolutely, and depends on her. This is the exact opposite of 
infatuation: this is the stuff that burrows deep, latches on firmly, 
and holds people together through thick & thin.

RESPONSE 2 
One might argue the same about Ron. Ron "knows her, likes her, 
admires her, respects her, trusts her absolutely, and depends on her".
It may be that Harry only discovers his true feelings for Hermione
when he is forced to contemplate life without her. If forced to 
choose between her and Ron, I'm afraid it's 'so long, Ron'. 

SAM's RESPONSE 2
That choice between Ron and Hermione is by no means a given according 
to "canon" or according to "the real world".  Based on events in this 
series, it can go either way. As a matter of fact, by the end of OOP 
he doesnt really fancy either of them as much as he had in the past - 
and it wouldnt suprsie me if there is more distance between Harry and 
both of them as Book 6 develops. By the way, the word "love" wasn't 
mentioned in either the response or the supposition.


SUPPOSITION 3
Luna and Harry? Not a chance. She and Ron have a much more similar
sort of vibe, she's much more interested in Ron than in Harry, and so 
far her interactions w/ Harry have been of a 'female Ron' sort: 
comradely, companionable, off-hand, very much "guy-style". MUCH more 
Ron's type (at least, he's a sitting duck for her). In Book 6, I 
expect to see her making even more effort to catch Ron's attention, 
in part by simply inserting herself into the group; 

RESPONSE 3
Most readers would agree with that.

SAMs RESPONSE 3
And since when are most readers right ???
Puhleeeeze - dont get me started on that dismissal .......
Seems to me that in SHIP analogies,    Luna is to Ron as Harry is to 
Cho  --- an infatuation at best that can easily be grown out of  .....

And when any good writer sees "Not a chance" they read "Gotta Happen 
That Way!" because if they can pull it off successfully they have a 
GREAT book on their hands. 

FINALLY -----
I have had several posts here as to the possibility of a Luna and 
Harry SHIP and the more I think about it the more I think it is 
destined ..... and can happen VERY easily !  Please read OOP 862-864. 
When it comes down to it, Luna is the only one whose words comforted 
Harry before he left Hogwarts. 

Once again, that does not mean that is the ONLY way the story MUST 
unfold -- that is my opinion and not "canon" {and hopefully not canon 
fodder}

Samnanya