The Twins and the Prize Money

Jesta Hijinx jestahijinx at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 9 16:46:19 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 59657


>That is an interesting question.  We have already
>seen Ron's reaction to Harry being given the MM
>by Fred and George.  He wasn't happy the map
>hadn't been given to him since they are his
>brothers.  Now, how will he feel if and when he
>finds out Harry gave those winnings to the twins
>rather than to him, Harry's best friend?  Ron did
>hear that Harry tried to give the money to Molly
>and she refused it.  I wonder if Ron was
>thinking, offer it to me, offer it to me or if he
>would have had the same reaction as Molly.  After
>all, the twins didn't want to accept the money at
>first and, I think, it was only when they
>realized he was serious about not wanting the
>money that they accepted it.  I also think they
>will view the money as investment capital rather
>than a gift.
>
They may well view it that way.  Hm.  I just made a post about this; I've 
amended my thinking on readin this.

The twins may well tell the family Harry gave them the money as investment 
capital.  The Weasleys *know* about his bank vault; they may wellr 
emonstrate with him on taking a chance with the twins, but they wouldn't 
question where it came from, since they'd be too polite to inquire about the 
actual extent of his wealth.

>I suppose the twins could lie and say that Bagman
>fnially paid up but I would assume they would
>hide it from the entire family just so their mom
>wouldn't confiscate the money.  On the other
>hand, at this point they are 17, the legal age
>for wizards, so they no longer have to practice
>magic in private.  At this stage it may be
>expected that they start having some independence
>that may not be open to Ron yet.  And, again,
>they could declare that someone had invested in
>their store and say it was a silent partner, not
>giving up the name.
>
That could also be, although I wonder that Molly would not be suspicious, 
especially if she found out the amount.

>I also wonder just how the twins will give the
>dress robes to Ron.  What will they say,
>particularly if they don't bother getting new
>dress robes for themselves?
>
Well, theyr'e out of school now = and opening a joke shop may not take them 
to many fancy occasions.  I suspect dress robes are like a tux or a very 
formal suit - they may not need them now in their current line of work.

I suspect that they would present the robes, say they'd won them in a game 
of chance or something like that, and he'd better suck it up and not grumble 
because whatever it was, it was better than what he had had before.

>I do think that Harry is well aware of the pride
>factor when it comes to money and the Weasleys.
>Canon says that Harry would gladly share his
>money with Weasleys but he knew they wouldn't
>accept it, proven when Molly declines the
>winnings.  Things he may want to do for Ron,
>remembering his own needs while with the
>Dursleys, he doesn't do because of this.  I think
>we see in his request to the twins to use part of
>the money to buy Ron new dress robes that when he
>finds an avenue to provide without hurting pride,
>he will take the opportunity.
>
I agree with the last about finding an avenue to provide without hurting 
pride; and I know this is what canon says.  Thanks for that last sentence, 
Lynn.  I'm not picking on you in particular when I say this next, because I 
think your response was, if anything, a little more balanced, reasoned and 
fair than many.  But I've just had to wade through a bunch that I felt 
obliquely attacked my values, which I express with some vigor WRT HP - and 
I'd like to state that I hold firm to my values of believing in giving and 
receiving charity and generosity with grace, offering the chance to the 
souls of others to do good deeds, and I have no intention of relinquishing 
them - with respect - to those of others who feel that pride is a virtue.  
(I was raised that pride is rather the opposite, but that's just me.)  Even 
if that's what JKR writes.  :-)  I'm keeping firmly in mind that it's a 
textual device as we are discussing it here.

Cheers,
Felinia

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