Connection between Voldemort and Fawkes?

innermurk innermurk at catlover.com
Mon Jun 9 17:08:29 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 59666

Bobby theorized earlier:
> <snip>
> >    Assuming these theories to be the most plausible and widely 
> > held... how in the heck did Riddle/Voldemort choose a wand from 
> > Fawkes? Or rather (as Ollivander might say), why did a wand 
> > containing a feather from Fawkes choose Riddle? Especially if 
> Fawkes 
> > is inextricably tied to Gryffindor... it seems odd that the heir 
of 
> > Slytherin would be destined for that wand.  It's easy to see how 
> > Harry would be destined for the brother wand for a variety of 
> > reasons... if he is related to Godric, or from his connection 
with 
> > Voldie from the curse that failed, etc... but Riddle/Voldemort 
was 
> > the original one to choose the Fawkes wand.  I think JKR loves 
the 
> > idea of fate and I figure that she must have a reason why the 
heir 
> > of Slytherin was destined for Fawkes' wand. Maybe Fawkes is not 
> tied 
> > to Gryffindor... I don't know. Any thoughts?

> Kristen added: 
> Great point!  The wand chooses the wizard, you know.  Perhaps this 
> wand also had some lessons on Divination and could see what was 
> coming.  Another possibility is when Dumbledore tells Harry the 
> powers of the phoenix - that they are very loyal.  Could it be that 
> the feather in the wand core retained that loyalty to DD and chose 
> Voldemort for the sheer purpose of providing a defense in the 
> future?  At the time Tom Riddle chose his wand, we don't know if he 
> was evil yet though he implies that he had evil tendencies very 
early 
> on when talking to Harry in the Chamber of Secrets.  Empirically, 
he 
> is Slytherin's heir, so maybe the wand picked up on that.  
> 
> Since OoP appears to be about the powers of the phoenix, I hope we 
> find out very soon!  I suspect this will be another barrier LV will 
> get past once he realizes what caused the priori incantatem.
> 


I innermurk would like to point out:
Dumbledore has told us that it is NOT what we are born but what we 
CHOOSE that's important (of course that's not a direct quote and he 
says it many times in different ways, most prevelantly in COS, but 
also GOF).
Voldemort was born Tom Riddle. We don't really know a lot about his 
parents, but we do know that he is a powerful wizard. Tom had an 
unfortunate childhood not unlike Harry, but he CHOSE to become 
Voldemort (evil).
Harry was born to powerful parents, and he had a bad childhood as 
well. We've had several indications that Harry is also (or will 
become) a powerful wizard. Harry has CHOSEN to fight on the good side.

Perhaps it's as simple as this: Fawkes' feathers are powerful magic 
and they need a powerful wizard to control them. Tom Riddle could've 
become a powerful force for good, but he didn't choose to. Harry 
could've become a powerful force for evil, but he didn't choose to.

Innermurk





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