Ginny, naming: potential for Lissa's TTTR theory
Brooke
brookeshanks at mugglenet.com
Mon Jun 16 19:33:37 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 60622
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...>
wrote:
> Firstly: Sorry if this has been mentioned before - I know that
> people have commented on the Arthurian significance of the Weasley
> names in various places, but I wasn't sure if this one has ever
come
> up.
>
> Have just finished marking essays on Charlotte Bronte's Villette,
> and the name of one the characters - Ginerva - struck me as
> interesting. Everything I've read on the subject has assumed
> that "Ginny" is short for "Virginia" - virgin queen with the red
> hair and etc - but I couldn't quite remember if Ginny's whole name
> has ever been confirmed canonically. If so, this is an irrelevant
> post. Sorry folks. If not - well, idly wasting time, I
> typed "Ginerva" into a name-search engine called "Behind the Name",
> and it came up with "Italian form of Guinevere". "Ooh" I thought,
> and followed the hyperlink to "Guinevere", where we find:
>
> GUINEVERE f English, Welsh Mythology
> Pronounced: GWIN-e-veer
> Old French form of the Welsh name Gwenhwyfar, which is composed of
> the elements gwen meaning "fair, white" and hwyfar
meaning "smooth".
> In Arthurian legend she is the beautiful wife of King Arthur. Her
> betrayal of her husband with Mordred prompted the battle of
Camlann,
> which led to the deaths of both Mordred and Arthur. Later versions
> of the legends tell of her adulterous affair with Sir Lancelot.
>
> I did know the legend already, but it was rather interesting to re-
> read it in this context. I don't *like* the G/H ship, but I still
> thought this was rather interesting. Although the translation into
> Italian makes this a little tenuous, I think there has been some
> debate round these parts on whether Godric and his hollow were
> Welsh, which establishes a potential link.
> I remember that Lissa had a theory on a pregnant Ginny betraying
> Harry and going back in time to spawn Tom Riddle, so I thought she
> might quite like this one.
>
> Kirstini
> (Okay, I'll admit it. I've re-read till I could quote you GoF word
> for word. I'm now wasting my partner's internet time by pursuing
> every tedious link I can. Term has ended and this week is
stretching
> endlessly infront of me. I need clues!)
Hi. Being a big fan of British History, the first thing I thought of
when the character of Ginny was introduced was Elizabeth I. (the
virgin queen - Virginia - nickname Ginny). For any Americans who
might not know, she ruled the Golden Age of England, firmly
established the Church of England, and is the most revered of all the
British queens in history.
Maybe Ginny will remain without a love interest in future books
(hence the "virgin" analogy). Maybe she will have a very important
role to play in the fight against Voldemort, and much like Elizabeth
I, she will have to choose the resposibilities of her important
position over personal romantic pursuits. Just a thought...
I also think it is interesting that Harry is often a nickname for
Henry, and Henry VIII was Elizabeth's father, and in many people's
view, the most powerful and favorite of all of Britain's past kings.
I wonder if JKR had any of these historical people in mind when
naming her characters. (It's hard not to believe it with other
legendary names associated w/ royalty like Arthur and James). Let's
just hope that Harry doesn't turn out marrying six women and sending
two of them off to join the headless hunt w/ sir nicholas!
Brooke
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