Ron and the Mirror of Erised

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jenny_ravenclaw" 
<meboriqua at a...> wrote:

> Ron does have pride, but his pride is not always for the right 
> reasons, like when he and Harry weren't talking in GoF.  Ron was 
> wrapped up in himself at the time and didn't make the effort to 
hear 
> Harry out about how Harry's name ended up in the goblet.  Ron's 
anger 
> towards Hermione at the Yule Ball was also a display of foolish 
pride, 
> IMO.
Hi
Hmmm, actually I dont see those two instances as examples of pride. 
Pig headedness yes :)pride no.
In the case of the fight with Harry Ron was basically hurt. He 
thought Harry had come up with a sure fire way of bamboozling the 
Goblet of Fire and didnt share the adventure with him. It was a fit 
of sulks that went on too long.
With Hermione its a whole different emotion. Not pride but jealousy. 
If he had kept a hold on his pride he would have gone out of his way 
to pretend that seeing her with Krum didnt bother him at all.

No I meant his pride in not accepting gifts even from his friend. 
See, the post i was replying to (sorry dont remember poster)suggested 
the hypothesis that Ron desires wealth so he will be tempted over to 
the dark side. My contention is that if Ron is greedy or 'obsessed 
with wealth' as another poster put it a while back, he would not be 
averse to accepting gifts. Infact he would exploit Harry's genrosity 
to the full. The fact that he is so sensitive about taking, what he 
percieves as charity points to his pride and self respect.


> Unfortunately, Ron is also quite insecure.  It is possible that his 
> mediocre grades are due to more than just teen boy laziness; many 
kids 
> don't study because they are worried about failing even if they 
make 
> an effort.  
Excuse me. Is this canon? I dont recall any specific mention to Rons 
grades being poor, infact the perception i recieve is that he and 
Harry are pretty much at par academically -not brillliant, but not 
touching the bottom either. Surely if his grades were less than 
acceptable we would have seen Molly saying something about it. 
Remember her blasting the twins? 

> I can't see Ron choosing to follow the dark side, but I can see him 
> making impulsive decisions that may hurt him or others.  Mostly, I 
see 
> Ron under Imperius, unable to fight it.  Ron may be a lot of 
things, 
> but strong is not one of them.  Maybe we'll be surprised in OoP, 
> though.

Ok i went and reread the chapter on Unforgivables. It specifically 
states that Harry was the only one able to resist Imperious. We see 
the lingering effects on Ron because he is the one 'on screen' right 
then. I bet Neville had a worse time shaking it off. 

> --jenny from ravenclaw, who can't believe that by this time next 
week, 
> she'll have read OoP - twice! ***********************

Lucky you
Shaggy (who will have a long, painful wait for Oop...sigh)