[HPforGrownups]SPOILERS! My defense of Harry (moved) OoP - Je nny's Big Questions /Opinions

[Nguyen, Marc]

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Marc, commenting on my defense of Harry, when I said Harry was lured by
his goodness:

> I disagree with is the comment above. I don't think he was lured by
his
> "goodness", but rather his stupidity. "Hermy" was right on with her
> deduction, and I think most readers might have guessed it too. Was I
the
> only one screaming in my head for Harry to use the mirror that Sirius
gave
> him instead of the fireplace?  

So, wanting to save people is not good?  Wanting to save people is
stupid?  Don't forget, Harry, regardless of how old he feels or acts, is
just fifteen. And let's look back over the last four years.  He wanted
to, and did, save the Sorcerer's/Philospher's Stone, 60 points to
Gryffindor.  He wanted to, and did, save Ginny, 200 points to
Gryffindor, special award for service to the school.  He's been rewarded
in the past for saving people/things.  Was it stupid of him to think
everything had suddenly changed?  Not to mention if he had ignored the
first dream of someone hurt, Arthur would have died.  I do think it was
goodness.  Not necessarily a conscious desire to do good, but an
internal inate goodness that makes him (and I know this sounds corny)
think like a hero.  Besides, Dumbledore was gone, Hagrid was gone,
McGonagall was gone, and he forgot about poor old Snape being a good
guy.  If anything was stupid, it wasn't Harry wanting to save people, it
was him trusting Kreacher.  As for the mirror, I reckon Harry'd already
forgotten about that, just like he forgot Snape was part of the Order.

Marc's reply:

Saving people is good. He had the right and correct intentions, but he was
"stupid" to just jump in and blindly run to the MoM. Even he knew that when
he was facing teh DEs and was trying to find a way for all of them to
escape, because he KNEW tha tit was his fault they were all there. 

There was a thread before the book came out that Harry had to make a
mistake, a costly one, before he will learn his lesson and look befor ehe
jumps. Yes, he is 15, yes he had a lot to put up with during the year, and
yes, his "only" father figure/brother was "supposedly in trouble. Maybe
"Stupid" is too strong of a word. Maybe "Stubborn" is the correct word to
use. All signs pointed to it being a trap. He ignored everyone's orders to
learn to block his mind...deliberately ignore those orders. That should have
been clue #1. along with the clues/suggestions Harry could have done in my
earlier post, he trusted the house-elf that HE was suspicious of earlier on
Sirious' location. 

I think Harry does have a complex, and now maybe he will start to deal with
it. I am not attacking you or Harry...just saying that he was very rash and
that his "goodness" was not what caused Sirius's death.

Marc