OOP: A few Points on Snape and other things

[professor_monkshood]

No: HPFGUIDX 61946

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "peggy baratto" <petalla at e...> 
wrote:
> Remember Tamara!  This was Snape's memory!  We did not see what 
Snape 
> did to them.  Just what they did to Snape.  We know that Snape was 
> fluent in hexes and curses.  I'm sure Snape did not sit back all 
of 
> the time and let the James gang do things to him.  
> Yes, I do think James was a show off, and he was influenced by 
Black 
> who seemes like the instigator.  Yes they were silly teens.  We 
have 
> no idea what Snape used to do though!

Umm.  In reply to some previous post that Snape's memory is 
inaccurate or biased, a point was raised that Lupin and Sirius 
offered no excuse for their behaviour other than silly 
teens, 'height of cool', and Snape into Dark Arts.  No evidence that 
Snape ever uses it though.  MWPP could have known it in classroom 
situations, like DADA.

What's more, there's no indignant scream from Sirius and Lupin that 
Snape put them through a toilet the previous day, week or month, 
even though Harry was clearly looking for some excuse for James's 
behaviour.  The whole conversation with Lupin and Sirius suggests 
that there is absolutely zero backstory in the Memory.

Moreover, even if Snape had done something to them previously, the 
attack itself was unprovoked.  How Snape had behaved when he was at 
school had little bearing on what had transpired in the Memory.  
MWPP did it because they 'were bored' and Snape 'exists'.  I want to 
throw up after reading that.

As for hexes and curses, Snape certainly didn't use too much of them 
in the Pensieve scene, even when I think he would have been 
perfectly justified anyway.  (I think his relatively poor dueling 
performace arises from the fact that he was absolutely exhausted 
after OWLs.  I need at least a day to recover from exam.)  Harry and 
co. would hex Malfoy for lesser offences.  

The most disturbing aspect in the Memory was the suggestion from 
Lily and Lupin that Snape wasn't the only one to have suffered in  
MWPP's hands -- only the one who copped most of it, the one who 
copped it constantly.  There were other people that have been 
bullied by MWPP.  That really shatters the myth of MWPP for me.  You 
can, with difficulty, make a convoluted case that Snape 'deserved 
it'.  You can't really make a case that everybody James and co. 
bullied 'deserved it'. 

> I think that Snape relates to Draco, and he does not want him to 
feel 
> the same way as he did as a student in Hogwarts.  He was not very 
> liked by other students (and maybe the staff as well...though we 
> don't know this).  I think he wants something better for Draco.  

Doesn't that make Sirius and Snape related...:-) I don't know 
whether either of them would like it much.  Always under the 
impression that Snape couldn't really careless about Draco and 
thought flattery would get Mr. Ferret out of his way the fastest.  
Have to wait for book 6&7 for further evidence.

> However,Snape did go out of his way to help Harry many times in 
this 
> book after the lessons..

And what does Snape get for his trouble again?  Harry blaming 
Sirius's death on him!  Does he ever get a break from anybody?