OoP - Snape the racist; Snape the victim; Snape Snape Snape
darrin_burnett
bard7696 at aol.com
Mon Jun 23 12:34:10 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 62019
There has been a question of whether these are Snape's views of the
events or the events themselves, which allows Harry to hear
conversations the younger Snape had no way of hearing.
I don't know when the Shrieking Shack prank took place, but if it
took place after the Worst Memory Prank, then you have to go with the
latter.
Lupin and the others talk about him being a werewolf. If Snape heard
that, and this was before the Shrieking Shack prank, then that
doesn't make sense.
So, I submit that this is Snape's subconscious, and not his memory
shading his views.
Now, onto Snape and the Marauders themselves.
I, too, wonder where the gang of Slytherins were. I don't buy that by
the end of fifth year, Snape, who after all came to school knowing
more curses than any seventh-year AND already had the "filthy
mudblood" doctrine down pat, Snape has no Slyth friends.
And speaking of all those curses, Snape really didn't get many good
shots in, did he?
Remember Lily saying "you're as bad as he is" to James? She's
essentially saying that a bully is as bad as a dark-arts loving
little racist. I say that's what begins to deflate James' head a
little bit. He has discovered what all men eventually discover about
women.
What we think impresses women - macho behavior - doesn't impress them
in the slightest.
Again, my feelings now on the Shrieking Shack prank and James'
reaction is NOT, as I originally thought, that Lily asked James to
save Snape, but that James saved Snape and Lily started seeing James
differently because of it.
How did Snape feel about all this?
I don't want to try to match wits with the premier Snapeologist, but
I'd like to suggest that Snape's feelings for Lily, if they existed --
not convinced yet, Amanda -- are buried so deep that he can't begin
to fathom them until long after she is dead.
She stands up for him, and he calls her the worst epithet in the
Wizard World, simply because of her bloodlines. I could see where
this is an unrequited crush manifesting itself as hate, but again,
those are very subterranean feelings. I wonder if Snape even grasped
them, until it was too late.
About this "worst" memory business.
First, this "worst memory" thing seems to be a chapter title and is
nowhere else in the canon.
We know only that this is something Snape didn't want Harry to see.
Why this memory? Does it have something to do with what happened
next? Or later that night?
Or, perhaps this is simply the memory that rockets to the surface
every time Snape has to deal with Harry -- because it has James,
Lily, Black and Lupin all in it -- so it was the easiest one to pluck.
Snape could perhaps not be giving Harry enough credit. The last thing
Snape might have expected is for Harry to feel pity for Snape and
revulsion at his father and Sirius' actions. He might have expected
Harry to be cheering at the bullying, and therefore didn't want Harry
anywhere near it.
I submit that if Snape had grasped Harry would be shaken so much by
the memory, Snape would have left it in for Harry to find. Think
about it, as humiliating as it was for Snape to have Harry see that,
it accomplished more than any taunt about his father's arrogance ever
did.
Are Snape and Harry heading for a reconciliation? No, not that, but
some kind of understanding.
It is, as Amanda pointed out, too soon for Harry to let go of his
anger toward Snape. He is mourning Sirius and he is reacting, in my
view, as he thinks Sirius would have wanted him to, with hatred
toward Snape.
But, I believe Harry is going to feel the urge, the need, to
apologize on behalf of his father. He might have done so already, had
Sirius not died and he had to deal with his own guilt and the
knowledge that he is heading down a path of death, if the prophecy is
true.
This is a long post, so I'll wait until later to post why I think it
is possible Snape is STILL the bad guy.
Darrin
-- Still likes James. Still likes Sirius. Still likes Lupin. :)
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