OOP: - Harry using the dais arch to communicate in 6 or 7

txjen70 jen60565 at aol.com
Mon Jun 23 16:19:56 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 62147

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "karenkyla3" 
<karenkyla33 at m...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Regina" <rdgriggs at m...> 
wrote:
> > **
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> > **
> > 
> > Maybe its my own personal grief that is keeping me from 
believing 
> > that Harry and Sirius are never to communicate again, but I 
think 
> JKR 
> > has left two big possibilities for Harry to keep in touch with 
> Sirius 
> > in times of peril in 6 and 7.
> 
> > 
> > 2 - the archway at the dais that Sirius was "pulled into?". The 
way 
> > JKR described this room at the MoM was "dimly lit and 
rectangular, 
> > and the center of it was sunken, forming a great stone pit some 
> > twenty feet below them. ... what seemed to be stone benches 
running 
> > all around the room and descending in steep steps like an 
> > amphitheater ... a raised stone dais in the center of the 
lowered 
> > floor, and upon this dais stood a stone archway that looked so 
> > ancient, cracked, and crumbling that Harry was amazed the thing 
was 
> > still standing."  
> > 
> > I got the impression it was an ancient place of gathering - 
perhaps 
> > sacrifice when Harry heared the voices coming from behind the 
> veil.  
> > Then when the Order arrived to help DA, I thought this place 
could 
> > have been an ancient dueling (somewhat "gladiatorish" :) place. 
> When 
> > Bellatrix and Sirius were dueling I was reading so fast that 
when 
> it 
> > became obvious that Sirius was gone I went back and reread - 
> (theres 
> > the denial coming out again).  Sirius was hit by Bellatrix's 
curse 
> > square in the chest - "his body curved in a graceful arc as he 
sank 
> > backward through the ragged veil hanging from the arch." (p. 806)
> > Lestrange obviously knew what Sirius disappearing behind the 
veil 
> > meant because she let out a "triumphant scream".  (p. 806)  
> > 
> > To get to the point - Harry heard voices when he found the 
archway -
>  
> > maybe he will be able to communicate with Sirius at this place 
at a 
> > future time.  It's significance will have to come out because 
JKR 
> put 
> > a lot of description of its appearance and entitled a 
> chapter "Beyond 
> > the Veil".  It has to be important later on.
> > 
> > Anyways - happy rereading
> > 
> > Mournfully,
> > Epona
> 
> 
> Me now:
> 
> My impression of the arch was a little different.  They were in 
the 
> Department of Mysteries which appeared to contain those things 
that 
> even the magicians do not understand.  The Brain, Prophesies, and 
of 
> course, the afterlife.  I took the reason that Sirius disappeared 
> into the arch was not going into the arch which destroyed him but 
> that it was because he was destroyed that he disappeared into the 
> arch.  That the arch is the gateway to the afterlife.  I will have 
to 
> reread it though.  By the time I got to that part, I was reading 
so 
> quickly I may have misunderstood.  
> 
> Stac

Because the Veil and Arch are in the MoM and because of the room 
description, I thought it might be a way wizards had executions.  
You know, with a gallery of onlookers and witnesses.  And maybe it's 
in a state of ruin because it hasn't been used in so long.  The 
wizard community seems to not have a death sentence now, but maybe 
they once did.





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