OoP: What was the Point of this Death? And Phineas ??s

[Liz Muir]

No: HPFGUIDX 62200

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zenchela" <zenchela at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat2001" 
> > 
> > Was he dead before he fell behind the veil?
> 
> Good question.  *WAS* he dead, or does Remus just assume he is?  
What 
> would happen to a still-living person who goes behind the veil?
> 
> Which leads to my thought: I think it's possible we may see 
evidence 
> of Sirius/Harry trying to communicate with each other in 5 and 6.  
I 
> know that Dumbledore said that "to the well-regulated mind, death 
is 
> the next great adventure" and Sirius would be just the one to go 
for 
> that great adventure, but Sirius didn't want to die.  His time with 
> Harry was unfinished, and it's possible that he'd try -- maybe 
> through Phineas? -- to talk to Harry.  And Harry would certainly be 
> open to looking through the veil to talk to Sirius.  What was the 
> thought that saved him from Voldemort?  "And he'd see Sirius again."
> 
> Zen

I'm definitely thinking that the veil will show up in future books. 
I'm thinking that Sirius was not dead when he fell. This assumption 
is based on the euphomism (sp? awful) of "passing beyond the veil" 
for someone being dead. I would assume that this is the veil in 
question and passing through it makes one become dead.

However there are tons of other ways to look at it. Maybe that 
passing through it only takes you to the land of the dead but if you 
are alive you can return. Maybe this is how the DoM is doing it's 
research on ghosts? But I think they would have made too quick of 
progress if this was the case.

Just some ideas,
Rowen