OoP: What was the Point of this Death? And Phineas ??s

[underwater7001]

No: HPFGUIDX 62215

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Liz Muir" <rowen_lm at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zenchela" <zenchela at y...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat2001" 
> > > 
> > > Was he dead before he fell behind the veil?
> > 
> > Good question.  *WAS* he dead, or does Remus just assume he is?  
> What 
> > would happen to a still-living person who goes behind the veil?
> > 
> > Which leads to my thought: I think it's possible we may see 
> evidence 
> > of Sirius/Harry trying to communicate with each other in 5 and 
6.  
> I 
> > know that Dumbledore said that "to the well-regulated mind, 
death 
> is 
> > the next great adventure" and Sirius would be just the one to go 
> for 
> > that great adventure, but Sirius didn't want to die.  His time 
with 
> > Harry was unfinished, and it's possible that he'd try -- maybe 
> > through Phineas? -- to talk to Harry.  And Harry would certainly 
be 
> > open to looking through the veil to talk to Sirius.  What was 
the 
> > thought that saved him from Voldemort?  "And he'd see Sirius 
again."
> > 
> > Zen
> 
> I'm definitely thinking that the veil will show up in future 
books. 
> I'm thinking that Sirius was not dead when he fell. This 
assumption 
> is based on the euphomism (sp? awful) of "passing beyond the veil" 
> for someone being dead. I would assume that this is the veil in 
> question and passing through it makes one become dead.
> 
> However there are tons of other ways to look at it. Maybe that 
> passing through it only takes you to the land of the dead but if 
you 
> are alive you can return. Maybe this is how the DoM is doing it's 
> research on ghosts? But I think they would have made too quick of 
> progress if this was the case.
> 
> Just some ideas,
> Rowen

I too think the veil and the Department of Mysteries will come up in 
the next book or two.  Surely the Dept must have been working on 
forming a link between the dead and alive via the veil, and maybe 
even begun experimenting with sending some unspeakables through 
it....

Although, as much as I would like to believe that Sirius will 
return, I find it hard to believe since I'd heard about JK Rowling's 
hiatus to mourn the character during the writing of the book.  Why 
would you mourn the death of a character that you're planning to 
have return?