OOP: Mysteries explained, my theories

rlharalson rharalson at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 23 21:25:01 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 62377

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Diana" <dianasdolls at y...> 
wrote:
> I've not managed to get through every post about OOP since the 
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> has re-opened, but I just had to put some of my theories and 
> thoughts into the mix after reading several posts asking the same 
> questions - questions I might have the answer to.  If other posters 
> have answered these, sorry for the duplication.
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> First: snip
>    I don't believe that the curse that hit Sirius killed him -
> perhaps without treatment it might have been injured severely 
enough 
> to eventually kill him, but what killed Sirius was falling through 
> the, in this case, quite literal, veil of death.  Sirius IS DEAD 
> because he fell through the physical barrier that actually 
separates 
> life from death.   

I agree but I also think with Luna's remark perhaps Harry will find a 
way to walk through the veil, maybe not. But I really like this first 
indication of spirituality in the Wizarding World, some sort of 
afterlife.

> Second: The prophecy. <snip>
    Luckily, Voldemort can't extract the prophecy from Trelawny 
> because she won't remember giving it.  I know she doesn't remember 
> giving it because she didn't remember giving the prophecy about 
> Wormtail returning to Voldemort after she told Harry.

I think this is why she is teaching there. Voldemort may not know she 
won't remember, thus she is at risk. Why else would Dumbledore be 
soooo adament that she remain at Hogwarts when Inquisitor fires her 
and he keeps her on when he has a much more skilled teacher in the 
centaur.
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> Third:  As for the Marauder's Map being returned to Harry, that was 
> not explained, but I can definitely see Dumbledore giving it back 
to 
> him.  <snip>

Oddly enough I never really thought about its return, I guess I 
assumed that the real Mad Eye Moody gave it back to Harry.
 
> Fourth:  Harry seeing the thestrals the first time
<snip>
I have a bad feeling that Ron and Hermione may be able to see the 
thestrals by the end of book.

Yeah, with a war on I'm afraid that Lupin's (I think) remark that 
there are no guarantees when Molly sees the boggart turn into her 
dead family may be accurate. There are just too many Weasley's for 
the statistics to be good.

> 7.    snip
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> Mindy CL wrote:
> >>Why in heaven's name did DD let VM go right there at the duel in 
> the lobby of the MoM? Just let him go like that??... arghhh. He 
> should've told Harry to finish him off right then and there, since 
> one of them has to survive and one of them has to die...<<

I don't think Harry is capable of killing Voldemort yet, if he ever 
will be. He wasn't able to hurt the woman who murdered his godfather. 
Personally I don't think the resolution of the prophecy is going to 
be that simple. Plus if he had killed Voldemort then, there would not 
be two more books. 
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> Finally, a word about Sirius' death and why he died... I was 
> surprised at the death of Sirius as well, but then it occured to me 
> WHY Sirius died.  Because Sirius, whether he meant to be or not, 
was a great danger to Harry. 
<Snip>

Again, I would love to know what plot purpose JKR had in killing 
Sirius. I had it pegged for Dumbledore because of the opportunity for 
plot development when Harry has to stand on his own. That also plays 
into the loss of Sirius. Now who will Harry go to with problems he 
can't go to Dumbledore about, problems that will only get worse as he 
matures. And I'm not just talking about life and death, but love, 
bullies, and NEWTS. I thought JKR did a wonderful job with his 
reaction. My brother was 15 when our parents split up and then when 
he family friend who had become a father figure passed away and his 
reaction was anger at everything. I think that endeared me to Harry 
in book 5,his natural reaction of anger to all that was happening 
around him. Sirius death gave outlet for that character development. 
And I also think it will be hard for Harry to trust Dumbeldore now.
Just my thoughts.
Renee






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