OotP: Prophecy question - SPOILER.

[mochajava13]

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Brigitte said:
> 
> Here's a thought that just occurred to me.  Please bear with me.  
I 
> think I figured out why DD had his famous gleam.  I think I've 
> figured out what could be a downfall to LV.
> 
> LV touches HP after the spell is completed (in GoF).  He wants to 
use 
> Harry's blood because he knows that he can't touch Harry and that 
his 
> blood has special protection in it because his mother died to save 
> him.  So, he uses Harry's blood & he now has Lily's blood in his 
> veins and now has the power of love coursing through him.
> 
> DD said that Lily had given Harry lingering protection because she 
> died saving Harry.  Then he said, "While you can still call home 
the 
> place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be 
touched 
> or harmed by Voldemort. ... You need to return there only once a 
> year..." (US, Ch. 37, p. 836)  
> 
> Now, wouldn't this mean that LV thinks that him and Harry are on 
the 
> same page now, that they have the same identical blood.  Let's say 
> that it has been about a year since he first got Harry's blood.  
> Wouldn't this mean that the LV will not be protected by the blood 
the 
> next time they interact?  That because Harry can call the place 
where 
> his mother's blood dwells home and offers him extra protection.  
LV 
> doesn't have that.  Isn't his going back to the Dursley's home 
what 
> seals the blood protection?  Won't LV have the same reaction if he 
> tries to lay hands on Potter?  And if LV doesn't go to the 
Dursley's 
> home then the love protection of the blood is broken?
> 
> Does that make sense?  I think it does.  It could explain the 
> famous "DD Gleam".  LV would be confident and wouldn't realize 
that 
> he would have any risk to himself and would touch Harry or do 
> something as equally as foolish in the year after he takes Harry's 
> blood.  That his idea of "protection" won't really work.  They are 
> going to get him on the fact that he doesn't know the entire 
spell.  
> Just like he doesn't know the entire prophecy.
> 
> Merlin's Beard, I think I've got it!!!
> 
> Tell me what you think!
> 
> 

I think you've got it, too!  

My ideas on Voldemort's downfall and the prophecy:
The prophecy relates to the Dark Lord, not to Tom Riddle.  Does Tom 
Riddle still exist in Voldemort?  If he doesn't, can Harry destroy 
the Dark Lord by bringing out Tom Riddle?  I don't know if I like 
this idea, it's too reminiscent of Darth Vader in Star Wars.  But 
who knows?  I personally think that Tom Riddle and Voldemort are one 
in the same, since Tom's been going by Voldemort since at Hogwarts.

Anyways, I think that the second part of the prophecy (neither can 
live while the other survives) is that neither can live 
independently while the other survives.  But what kind of survival 
is this?  Is this life itself (meaning that one has to die for the 
other to live)?  What if their sould is sucked out of them, via a 
dementor's kiss.  Is that survival?  I think it would be, from how a 
kiss is described in PoA.   I think that each will impose his 
feelings on the other as long as the other is alive.  

We do have clues on who will win.  Harry cannot be killed by 
Voldemort as long as he has his mother's protection (as long as 
Petunia, and possible Dudley, are  alive and Harry calls their home 
his home.)  I can't see Voldemort paying attention to this at all, 
and going after the Dursley's.  But then again...  Besides this 
protection in Harry, we have the fact that their wands share cores.  
They don't function properly when used against the other.  Does this 
mean that Voldemort can't hurt Harry?  I don't think this; Voldemort 
is able to use the crucio curse on Harry.  But, I think that if they 
both attack the other at the same time, nothing will happen.  

And, remember that Voldemort is cursed, because he has drank 
unicorn's blood and killed unicorns.  In the first book, one of the 
centaurs (Firenze?) says that anyone who slays a unicorn will lead a 
cursed life, a half life.  Voldemort has drunk unicorn's blood on 
several occasions - in SS/PS, in GoF while Wormtail is nursing him, 
and he probably needed unicorn blood to resurrect himself.  V's 
cursed, and nothing can remove this curse.  Harry isn't cursed like 
this, but does have many protection in him that V doesn't.  Hmm, 
maybe we know that Harry will survive?

Here's some more ideas: what if everything that Harry lives for is 
destroyed?  When he faced V in OoP, he didn't do anything to stop 
the Avada Kedavra curse.  Only Dumbledore's intervention stopped 
it.  Did Harry care if he died?  Now what if everyone he loves is 
killed?  Will he even try to fight, or will he just allow himself to 
be killed?  Another thought: the locked room in the Department of 
Mysteries: I assume that this room is devoted to the study of love.  
What would happen if Harry locked  Voldemort in this room?   
Voldemort hates love, and always underestimates its power, what 
would happen if he were forced to endure it?  This would be worse 
than putting the crucio curse on V, in my opinion.  He can't bear to 
possess Harry, because of the love that Harry has.  If V's forced to 
feel it, what would happen?  Could this lead to his downfall?  We 
know JKR never mentions something for no reason, and she mentioned 
the love room twice (Dumbledore suggested that the locked room was 
devoted to the study of love.)  I'd love to see what would happen to 
V if forced to endure love.  Hmm...

Sarah
Now waiting for Book 6.  Doh!!!