OOP: James, Snape, God, Illustrations

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 62573

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jenserai Bariman" 
<jenserai at h...> wrote:
> Melpomene:
> >Did he? Grow out of it? Something struck me when I read the line
> >about Harry wondering whether James had "forced" Lily to go out 
with
> >him. The "I'll let him down if you go out with me" line morphed 
into
> >something more awful like---"It's a matter of life and death, 
Evans.
> >I'll stop it if you go out with me."  Stop what? Oh, death by
> >werewolf perhaps?
> >How could I think such a thing...gosh how could I? Oh, maybe
> >the "Snape was a special case" rationale. And "well he didn't take
> >him along on dates with him and hex him in front of her!" They 
didn't
> >start dating until 7th year. (Right?) SO when the hell did he grow
> >out of it? > >
> 

Me: 
The Snape was a special case rationale was that Snape never stopped 
trying to curse James, and James wasn't going to take that. Pg 671. 

Did James stir Snape up to do that? Certainly, but I agree, James did 
have to defend himself. Perhaps if he'd have let Snape get him, this 
would all be over now, but I somehow doubt that.

> 
> O.o
> Ooh, that's very pretty. I like it. I don't know if I dare hope for 
> something that juicy in can(n)on, but I like it nonetheless. Has it 
already  been acronymed?
> 
> Anyway, I only said James seemed to have grown up a bit because of 
what  Lupin and Black said about his having deflated his head a bit 
and stopped  hexing people just for the fun of it. To me it looks 
like something happened to make him quit acting like he owned the 
school. Something to do with the Prank perhaps. Maybe Dumbledore 
realized it was time to warn him about his behavior or something and 
from then on, he restricted himself to beating on Snape in private.
> 
> Nevermind, he didn't grow up in the least. After the Prank, 
Dumbledore 
> threatened expulsion if he caught wind of anymore bullying. And of 
course  this would make James like Snape even less...
> 

Me:

Huh? Did Book 6 come out and I missed it? We don't know why James 
backed off and got his head deflated. Lily telling him off surely had 
something to do with it, and realizing what Sirius had done with the 
prank was something else. 

And does it really track that James forced Lily to marry him? That 
the pictures of the happy people Harry has in his photo album was 
essentially a prolonged rape? Or the sacrifice JAMES made when V-Mort 
showed up at the door, "Run, Lily, I'll hold him off" was for a woman 
he cared so little for as to force her to marry him?

Sheesh, I'm glad to see the hate for James isn't getting out of hand 
or anything.

Darrin