OOP: James, Snape, God, Illustrations

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 62644

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sophineclaire" 
<metal_tiara at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" 
> <bard7696 at a...> wrote:
> 
> > Me:
> > 
> > Yep, he kept hexing Snape, when Snape attacked him. Snape knew 
> better 
> > to attack James in front of Lily. He'd lose his filthy mudblood 
> > defender then, if he was provoking James.
> > 
> > And I never denied James had multiple victims, but I do submit he 
> did 
> > leave them alone when he "got it."
> > 
> > But hey, if you want to believe James stayed a 15-year-old brat 
for 
> > the rest of his life, that's cool.
> > 
> > But Lily DID marry him. He DID become Head Boy. He DID become a 
> > respected member of the Order of the Phoenix. He DID give his 
life 
> > trying to save Lily and Harry.
> > 
> > I believe that if James were alive and found out Harry was being 
a 
> > bully, (which could have happened, had Harry grown up rich and in 
a 
> > family of wizards) he would be horrified.
> > 
> > As I've said, I wonder how many people can stand to be judged 
based 
> > on their 15-year-old selves.
> > 
> > Darrin
> > -- And any time Snape, or anyone else, let loose with a "filthy 
> > mudblood," I would have done Scourgify MYSELF.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> SO where does it say in OotP that Snape always attacked MWPP first?
> IMO, it seems that Snape only retaliated. I know this is only one 
> scene, but that's the only scene we got and all Snape does is try 
to 
> fight back when MWPP (or rather PP) provoke an attack.
> 
> I'd say the reason why James kept on hexing Snape is because Snape 
> fought back. Not the smartest thing, but looking at Snape's 
> background, he seems to have decided that that would be the way to 
> deal with MWPP. Regarding Lily, obviously bully and hexing people 
> didn;t impress her before, it probably wouldn't have impressed her 
> while they were dating, so I'd say James was trying to make himself 
> look as good as possible to his girl. I doubt Snape care who 
defended 
> him, as long as he could handle the situation himself and keep his 
> pride.
> 

Me: 
Page 671: "Snape was a special case. I mean, he never lost an 
opportunity to curse James, so you couldn't really expect James to 
take that lying down, could you?"

At some point, Snape went from retaliation and self-defense to 
attack, putting James in the self-defense, retaliation mode. I admire 
Snape's spunk, but the fact is, he kept the fight going after James 
seemed willing to let it go.

Don't blame Snape, necessarily, but I am pointing out that Snape kept 
it going.

Darrin