OOP:Potions master, Lucius, characterisat, Harry/Snape, Wormtail, sayings, P

[catherinemckiernan]

No: HPFGUIDX 62834

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Debbie" <debmclain at y...> wrote:
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> Rane wrote:
> > It says, also, that Lucius Malfoy is 41. Which does definitely mean 
> > he was in school with Snape - but were they in the same year? As I 
> > recall, JKR said at some point that Snape was 35 or 36, but I have 
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> > idea when she said that. The only way they could have been in the 
> > same year is if Snape was 36 in book 1. Though I suppose I can very 
> > well see a younger Severus running after the elder Malfoy.
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> > Taryn wrote:
> > I looked it up, and that was in a chat in 2001, which is after GoF. 
> So I guess the assumption would be Snape was 35 or 36 in GoF and 36 
> or 37 in OotP. So Lucius should have about four or five years on 
> Snape.
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> Me:
> This is definitely the reason JK put Lucius' age in. I don't recall 
> anyone else's age being defined (adult-wise), but just Lucius. And we 
> knew Snape's age from before. So now we have the connection between 
> Snape & Lucius attending school together. Hmmm... there has to be a 
> reason why Snape is so good to Draco. Is it because he feels guilty 
> about spying on his father? Or were Snape & Lucius friends? Well, I 
> kinda doubt that. Snape being poor and Lucius being mega-rich. And 
> now we know that Lucius does NOT work at the Ministry. I always 
> thought he was more Warren Buffett-ish.
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> Perhaps Snape did tag after Lucius? Although, if Snape did know all 
> those hexes and spells before starting Hogwarts, I can see why Lucius 
> would be attracted to being friends with him/DE.
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C McK: When you suddenly get a little nugget like that, there has to
be a reason. I was never one for Mentor!Lucius before, but now begin
to suspect something along those lines. Especially as it seems that
Snape's current activities have something to do with him, with the
comment from Umbridge and Sirius?s lapdog jibe. I think the jury's
still out on his treatment of Draco. If Lucius took Snape into the
DEs, there'd be some serious conflict there, but he might still be in
some way grateful, if Lucius did anything that made teenage life more
bearable at the time. 
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> > Was anyone else cheering when Malfoy finally got landed in Azkaban? 
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> > mean, all right, he probably won't be staying there long, but can 
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> > just imagine fancy Mr. Malfoy in a dank, dark cell in Azkaban? The 
> > mere thought sends me into a fit of laughter. What a pity the 
> > Dementors couldn't stay just a while longer. :-p

C McK: Knowing what Azkaban does to one's hair, I imagine he doesn't
need the Dementors to have nightmares! However, Sirius's hair now
seems back to normal (loved the way he kept flicking it out of his
eyes; reminded me of teenage girls), so perhaps he will recover when
he gets out.

> > And I suppose he can't exactly walk right back into Malfoy Manor 
> now, 
> > everybody will no doubt be watching. (Though I don't doubt that 
> > Malfoy has his ways to get in without attracting attention, either.)
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> Me:
> OOOhhh... this is going to be interesting. Someone wrote earlier that 
> Lucius is now considered a thief and is no longer a pillar of 
> society. Even when he breaks out (and he better), how is life going 
> to treat him? And how is Draco going to react to the way society will 
> treat him? As I said before, the next book, Draco will be the angry 
> young man. Although, really, what's his role now? Harry's not scared 
> of him and could easily beat him in a showdown. I guess that's why 
> his role has diminished. Seems he'll stay evil. Again, it's all about 
> choices and not where you're born.
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> And, no, I wasn't cheering when he went to jail. I still think he'd 
> make an awesome MOM. :-) Especially for Voldy.

Lucius has got to get out ? it's not as if no-one knows how. Though
Voldy might be a bit miffed about things going wrong, Lucius, is one
of the more, er, stable DEs, hence a useful chap. What I don't see yet
is what Lucius thinks he'll get out of Voldemort?'s triumph. He?s not
a worshipper like Bellatrix or weak in the same way as Wormtail. He's
got money, power, influence etc, already. Is it a bandwagon for the
moment that's going in the same direction and when he wants to he'll
jump off for himself, or can Voldy really offer something BIG? As yet,
we haven't seen it.

Looking forward to a bit more Narcissa in Book 6. 

Catherine McK

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