Two-way Mirror and other frustrations! (OotP Spoilers!)

Grey Wolf greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Tue Jun 24 16:12:19 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 62944

<Snip my "foggy memories" theory>
> Darrin:
> 
> I agree with this concept, and would love canon that mitigated the 
> disturbing images of James and Sirius in that scene,  but then how do 
> we factor in Lupin and Sirius' ready agreement that what Harry saw 
> was accurate?

Harry didn't repeat word for word, image for image the scene. He 
probably just said "I saw you and James gang up on Snape, expelliarmus 
him, hang him upside down, and then my mother convince you to leave him 
alone", or something along those lines. The situation is bad enough 
that Snape has little room for improvement (or in this case, worsening, 
remembering even worse than it really was, to wallow even more in 
self-pity. Snape strikes me as a good "wallower").

I wonder too, how many of such situations was Snape through. The 
marauders hate for him is bad enough that this might have been a common 
passtime for them, and thus remembering what exactly happened is very 
difficult for Sirius and Lupin, and thus they cannot say "Oh, but in 
that occasion he had just insulted so-and-so, it wasn't *completely* 
unjustified.

> Had Snape's memory shaded it to say, make him just innocently minding 
> his own business when he might have done more to provoke it, wouldn't 
> Lupin and Sirius said, "Hey, didn't you see Snape do such-and-such?"  
> Of course,not having a Pensieve themselves, they might not have total 
> recall.

I agree, as I said above, Snape is the one with the Pensive. The other 
two, one has spent ten years in Azkaban (not a place for fond 
reminiscense) and the other goes mooney one week out of four - and 
wasn't really involved in the incident.

> Perhaps Sirius and Lupin knew they had done that kind of thing and it 
> was heinous enough to fess up, but  Snape's version made James more 
> evil than he really deserved to be made. 

Maybe - if it makes you feel better. I'm resigned to accept that James 
was indeed a bully (although his "jock-ness" might have been a 
caricature - we do tend to associate simple characteristics to people 
we don't really know, and James was being *very* "caricature-esque").
 
> He knows it now, so when he yanks the memory out, he has perhaps 
> extrapolated the Marauders bragging about Lupin being a werewolf.
> 
> Is this what you mean, Grey Wolf? 

Errr... no, hadn't thought about it. You can claim that, if you want. 
I'm so pleased someone actually answers one of my posts I don't mind 
sharing :D

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf, asking for forgiveness due to having problems with English 
language and word derivation. "caricature-esque" indeed! :: blushes ::






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